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Post subject: Brand: more indication he will stay with the Clips
 Posted: Apr 05, 2008 - 11:15 PM PST
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Inside the NBA: Brand's return fuels hope of Clippers revival
Last updated April 3, 2008 11:35 p.m. PT
Brand has an opt-out clause on his contract, but he is not expected to exercise that right. He talks in the present and future when it comes to the Clippers, something predecessors such as Danny Manning, Michael Olowakandi, Loy Vaught and Ron Harper never did.
"We have another high draft pick, Al Thornton had an amazing rookie year, and Chris Kaman had a great first half," Brand said. "We have a chance to rebuild quickly. Things just didn't go the way we wanted to this year because of the injuries. I know other teams got better, but we would have improved also."
Next year, Brand promises, the Clippers will be back and this season was merely an aberration, not a permanent return to the bad ol' days.
"I see myself as the face of the organization," he said. "When I went down the record spoke for itself. We haven't been that bad in a long time. I just don't want to lose what we have established."
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketbal ... bok04.html
If this isn't an indication that he will stay then I don't know what is. By the way, this was an interview before the Seattle game where we won. |
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Post subject: RE: Brand: more indication he will stay with the Clips
Posted: Apr 06, 2008 - 12:19 AM PST
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That's great- thanks for the article CJ. Interesting how he didn't mention Maggette in his comments....
I hope he does opt out and then sign for the Clippers for less than max so we could get him more help. Probably not likely though.... |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Brand: more indication he will stay with the Clips
Posted: Apr 06, 2008 - 12:53 AM PST
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david wrote:
That's great- thanks for the article CJ. Interesting how he didn't mention Maggette in his comments....
I hope he does opt out and then sign for the Clippers for less than max so we could get him more help. Probably not likely though....
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. Interesting how he didn't mention Maggette in his comments....
I never thought of that when i read the article...could be he knows Maggette's & the Clips plans. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Brand: more indication he will stay with the Cli
Posted: Apr 06, 2008 - 01:03 AM PST
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| The Clippers must have something planned. I talked to my season ticket rep. at the Dallas game and told me that the Clippers will refund my season tickets at full if im not happy with the team next season. Im pretty sure they wouldnt of said that unless they know something because i doubt Donald Sterling would want to refund season ticker holders money back. |
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Posted: Apr 06, 2008 - 02:43 AM PST
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Elton Brand, Al Thornton, Chris Kaman are the main foundation of the Clippers!!!
EB is a proven leader and a tremendous athlete that is dedicated.
Al Thornton is a rising star and will become a vital part of the success the Clippers will have in many seasons to come.
Chris Kaman is finally seen as the player that everyone had hoped for. |
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Posted: Apr 06, 2008 - 04:50 AM PST
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Clips84 wrote:
Elton Brand, Al Thornton, Chris Kaman are the main foundation of the Clippers!!!
EB is a proven leader and a tremendous athlete that is dedicated.
Al Thornton is a rising star and will become a vital part of the success the Clippers will have in many seasons to come.
Chris Kaman is finally seen as the player that everyone had hoped for.
There's no doubt that these players are a solid mix...But we should realize that it's not enough to get the PO next year. We have to upgrade the perimeter with QUALITY players |
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Miquel wrote:
Clips84 wrote:
Elton Brand, Al Thornton, Chris Kaman are the main foundation of the Clippers!!!
EB is a proven leader and a tremendous athlete that is dedicated.
Al Thornton is a rising star and will become a vital part of the success the Clippers will have in many seasons to come.
Chris Kaman is finally seen as the player that everyone had hoped for.
There's no doubt that these players are a solid mix...But we should realize that it's not enough to get the PO next year. We have to upgrade the
perimeter with QUALITY players
In order to upgrade now that Sam Cassell is gone...the Clippers must run a faster pace offensive game. More fast-breaks, crashing boards and just run...run...run!
Seriously...EB, Thornton, Kaman are a good start to a very good franchise.
We just need to draft one of the top 5 players this year...IE:..i'd prefer rose!
Get rid or trade players that will drag us down...IE: Thomas & Knight. |
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Posted: Apr 06, 2008 - 06:22 PM PST
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| I like Knight's ball control and passing skills. He's 3rd in the league in Assist/Turnover ratio I believe. He's a solid backup for next year, and although he doesnt score much, he can play some valuable minutes if he has the weapons to get the ball to. |
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Posted: Apr 06, 2008 - 06:48 PM PST
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I guess we should change the coach then
In order to upgrade now that Sam Cassell is gone...the Clippers must run a faster pace offensive game. More fast-breaks, crashing boards and just run...run...run!
Seriously...EB, Thornton, Kaman are a good start to a very good franchise.
We just need to draft one of the top 5 players this year...IE:..i'd prefer rose!
Get rid or trade players that will drag us down...IE: Thomas & Knight.[/quote]
I guess if you prefer an up-tempo game we should change of coach then...And it is not likely |
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Posted: Apr 06, 2008 - 09:44 PM PST
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| Yes, I am pretty positive that Elton Brand will return. |
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Posted: Apr 07, 2008 - 05:49 AM PST
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Yea, I think the potential team we have next year, along with chemistry and the intangibles, is good enough to get us into the playoffs.
I don't think Brevin Knight will drag us down because he is a proven point guard. though i don't think he should be the starting PG(livingston!), he can still be a good backup. Tim Thomas is a bench/role player.
I really think we need to make ONE offseason move, preferably one that can help out the starting lineup, meaning to sign a GOOD free agent.
We got the twin towers in Brand and Kaman
We got the rising star and super slasher in Thornton
We got(hopefully) the court vision of Livingston
We NEED that shooting touch to complete our starting lineup.
We have a good/deep bench because players such as josh powell really improved his game this year. Also, our bench would have knight, mobley, thomas, q. ross, parker, dickau assuming we keep the players we have this year.
I like the uptempo game, with fast breaks and alleyoops but 2006 proved that we don't need to be uptempo to be successful. Honestly, 2006 year when the clips made the playoffs, the clippers were a fundamental team. They worked the pick n roll often and ran their offense through the post. And because of our size and athleticism, we were able to compete with a lot of teams. That's what I think is so great about kaman and brand; they are bigs who can run the floor. Hopefully, next year, with livingston, we can also utilize his size to get mismatches on a lot of opponents. It's not a specific style of play we need, we need the players that are able to run any sort of offense that wins games. Versitility. Al thornton will get faster and stronger next year and that should be of our benefit as well. so i see a lot of different styles the clippers can play. LET'S JUST HOPE the coach is smart about this team and makes good decisions. |
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Miquel wrote:
I guess we should change the coach then
In order to upgrade now that Sam Cassell is gone...the Clippers must run a faster pace offensive game. More fast-breaks, crashing boards and just run...run...run!
Seriously...EB, Thornton, Kaman are a good start to a very good franchise.
We just need to draft one of the top 5 players this year...IE:..i'd prefer rose!
Get rid or trade players that will drag us down...IE: Thomas & Knight.[/quote]
I guess if you prefer an up-tempo game we should change of coach then...And it is not likely[/quote]
Ooops! I shoulda mentioned the Coaching side of improving the team. Good Catch!
Dunleavy isnt the coach for the clippers. |
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We've already got the front court etablishe with Kaman, Brand and Thornton................like I have said in all my other posts..........Clips need to go hard after Arenas, if not Arenas, then perhaps Mike Miller (although weak in defense) Ben Gordon (too short) or another high caliber shooting guard.
Depending on where the Clippers fall in draft order, if they can not lock up Beasley, I hope they look at this kid from Memphis.....not the freshman Rose, but the junior Chris Douglas-Roberts......
He is perfect for Dumbleavy's system 6-7 guard, and packs on more weight than Livingston |
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Posted: Apr 07, 2008 - 10:39 AM PST
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Looking at mock drafts, the #6 slot won't get LAC a high impact player. Beasley and Rose will be long gone. If they don't get lucky and get a #1-#3 pick, I think they should trade the pick.
The kind of PG or consistent 3-point threat guys we are all thinking about will not be available at #6. LAC doesn't need another young stud, rather a proven guy.
Trade the #6 pick for the #10/#12 (or thereabouts) and a backcourt vet. They might have enough cap space to sign the other backcourt guy they need. Then the #10/#12 can be used for a Westbrook/Douglass-Roberts/Love type of guy. One of those will be available.
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It seems the more realistic options among G players are Eric Gordon and Bayless. I haven't seen them play but for the reports I've read both are combo guards. It seems Gordon is a shooter, isn't it? At least, he attempted 6,5 shots per game from the 3 point line converting 2,1...ouch
Sincerely I would trade our top ten pick for the Rudy Fernandez rights...and I'm not joking. This guy is gold.Last weekend he played versus Tau, already playing with Singleton, and he got another MVP journey award with 28 points...Look the first basket because this is maybe his more characteristic shot. You'll see it several times next year in NBA. And the alleyoop is not bad, too...Pass from Ricky!!
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| It does seem like a lot depends on Shaun's recovery. If he can be the point guard he was envisioned to be, and seemed to be starting to play like when he went down, then of course the use of the high pick on a Bayless or Westbrook wouldn't make as much sense. Livingston starting with Knight off the bench is a solid combination... IF Shaun is healthy and gets his game back. Then we could use the pick on the best available long range type shooter. Or we can roll the dice with drafting a point regardless, and try to attract a free agent shooter. Ether, I'm not so sure that we won't have to use the pick we have to get either Bayless or Westbrook... both seem to have impressed late and look to go around there (#6 or 7) so trading down and still getting one of them may not be an option. If one of them were to be available later, then sure, that woud be great if we could get something more out of the deal. Both are 6'3" or so, like Rose and I would like to see us with a taller point for a change. For example Shaun, if healthy. So much seems to hinge on him, its too bad we can't KNOW that his game will recover. Oh well... at least we have options to go with the strong returnees. However things work out we should be looking at a very interesting team for next year. One thing though... whether its a new point guard or whatever, one of the biggest disappointments of the year for me is that we have a guy with a 42" vertical (Thornton) who gets NO alley-oop slams. Why is that? I don't know if it is because we don't run the play, or that we can't throw the pass, or if there's some other reason, in any event it just seems wrong. Having someone who can go up and get the ball like Al can is a unique weapon, and not using that weapon seems wasteful, not to mention the impact that particular play has on the game and the fans. Just wondering. |
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Why not go after Douglas Roberts through the draft and then go after a premiere shotting guard through free agency?
It's so simple is it not? Or am I missing something? |
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Douglas Roberts would be a great backup to Thornton and play SG. He is very athletic and I think the extra year of playing at Memphis is really really helping him develop his game. The 19-year old rule in general is making better players at both NCAA and NBA level. Reports are that Stern and Myles Brand both are in favor of raising the age to 20. Anyways...I would like to pick Chris, but at #6, I dont think its worth the risk. I'd love to get him in the 2nd. I think the Clips should target a PG in the draft. With, as it goes now, the #6 pick, you gotta take a guy who you are gonna start. None of our current guards are starter quality, and Livingston is still questionable as to how he'll return, so I'm for getting the best guard available in the draft, or trading down for something worthwhile. Would Toronto rather have 2 first rounders or 2 starting PGs??? I'd like to trade our pick to the Raptors for Calderon.
Also, I'm gonna agree with Miquel on trying to get Rudy. I dont know if I'd be willing to give up a lottery pick, but if we could work out a different trade, that'd be great. |
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jlemmen43 wrote:
or trading down for something worthwhile. Would Toronto rather have 2 first rounders or 2 starting PGs??? I'd like to trade our pick to the Raptors for Calderon.
JLemm - Calderon is who I was thinking about when I suggested trading down.
To answer dwb on the alley oop to Thronton question. I think the reason is that the group of guys who play on the floor have not had enough time to work together in practice. It's a timing issue and without a consistent set of guys playing and working out together, no two guys have had an opportunity to work on the timingand communication. |
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Posted: Apr 07, 2008 - 11:07 PM PST
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Yeah Ether, that would be ideal if it could work. They could bolster their team with a young stud and/or take a young PG to eventually take over for TJ Ford. I mean, Calderon would be the best choice for Toronto for the future, but do they wanna give up TJ Ford who has proven he belongs as a Starting PG? It's just Calderon is too good to be a backup. Toronto would be wise to pick one, and start to improve their team by getting something for the other. I'd keep Jose if I was Toronto, but I dunno what they're thinking of doing.
I agree with you on the alley-oops. Thats gotta be a big reason they arent messing around with the fancy stuff. |
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Posted: Apr 07, 2008 - 11:52 PM PST
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sorry to say it but i hope brand leaves the clippers
i dont want him to waste his career like garnett did for so long
maybe clips can do a sign and trade so that the clips can get something for him |
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