Regarding CP's FA status after next year

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We've been hearing "oh, he's gonna leave" etc since the Clipps first landed him. Now "he and Howard will team up in Atl, Houston" blah, blah. Is it a possibility? Of course it is. However I think we all feel he will resign, not because WE hope and want him too, but it just feels that way. Now let's say he does leave, it's not the end for the Clippers. I mean, no way would I want him to leave, as a long time Clipper fan we have never had a player such as CP or even Blake for that matter, but again , no need to worry. Let's say he does, we can throw the max at James Harden, make him our SG, move E bled to the starter at PG (hoping he continues to improve, which seems like it) and boom! Eric at PG, Harden at SG, Blake at PF..nice little trio won't you say? Young, athletic and much more experienced..plus add in other fillers that the team can get...not so bad huh? Just something to think about..things still look bright for us

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yup! but the goal is to bring harden and pair him WITH cp! haha just wishing

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I'm Not So Worried About CP3 Walking, $20mil Less In Cap Space With Hopes Of A Young SG With That. I Personally Don't Think That CP3 Is Worth The $108Max He Is Eligible. Just Offer Him What Other Teams Can Offer Him, If HE Walks, He Walks. Bledsoe Is A Stud, But Lets Not Forget, Blake Will Get Better And Getting In His Prime. #imjustsayin

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I am not saying that EBled is as good as CP3, but I will say he has intangibles that CP3 does not have, and I would be willing to sacrifice the losses of CP3 to get the gains of EBled (only if CP walked). I really hope that isn't the case, but with the new CBA it would probably do just as much good as it would harm if we were free of a contract with CP.

I am one of those whack jobs who thinks EBled has potential to be another house hold name, and probably have a jersey retired if he plays his cards right in his career, and I wouldn't mind seeing us take that chance with him.

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The Clippers have never been pressured like this to win before.

CP3Best
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I wouldn't not offer CP3 the max deal that deal shows commitment!

FreaKeyy
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Carmelo said that CP is gonna be Knick. Here's the link

w w w. sports grid . com / nba/ melo- wants- paul- in- ny /

just remove the spaces... I wanted to make a thread about this too

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Carmelo is a piece of crap player. No way in hell CP3 joins that mess.

CP3Best
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Maybe we bring Melo here, he was teaching Blake a few things, but no way CP leaves Griffin!

FreaKeyy
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^^^ Well they're buddies... and we offer the most money for CP. Unless he'll take less money just to make their own Big 3, just like what LBJ did. And we all know what happened to lebron after he took his talents to south beach lol

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So true, the expectations have NEVER been higher!

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That sounds like the perfect plan! 100% agree!

apostle
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I don't know about a crap player but I agree why go to a team that hasn't gotten out of the 1st round in more then TEN!! years even weve(Clips) have done it twice

apostle
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As far as CP3 leaving I hope he doesn't but 4 me that's why Bledsoe tearing it up in the playoffs and leading our team to a game 7 win was so great to watch(People seem to forget that CP3 and Blake could both hardly move after game 5 against Memphis)

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apostle wrote:
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Carmelo is a piece of crap player. No way in hell CP3 joins that mess.

I don't know about a crap player but I agree why go to a team that hasn't gotten out of the 1st round in more then TEN!! years even weve(Clips) have done it twice

Maybe it was because he was young and immature but when quentin ross got the better of him in the 06 playoffs i knew he wouldn't do what he needed to do in order to win a title. Billups made those Nugget Teams good.

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what?!? if cp3 isn't worth the max deal, then who is?

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The Knicks are reportedly NOT going to match Jeremy Lins ridiculous contract that Houston offered him. That's a freakin nightmare clearly that means they think they have a good chance to land CP3 next year. What a nightmare I especially don't wanna hear about this all year,I still doubt he leaves a 2nd round team that can pay him up to 100mil.(the Knicks haven't got out of the 1st round 4 more then 10 years)

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Knicks are constructing a sign and trade for Felton. CP3 is definitely going to the Knicks now. I'm positive he will be a Knick next year. Let's see they have Kidd. There gonna get Felton back. And their gonna throw CP3 in their as well. The Knicks FO are geniuses. All they have to do is check out CTB to make it all happen. Anything can happen. Is the sky falling?

apostle
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No the sky's not falling but its NOT good news clearly when our biggest competition for CP3 is making moves for next summer for our best player and Carmelo's laughing when asked about CP3 going there next year.

Will still have Bledsoe who I persnally think will be sick but man this sux

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Apostle I was being sarcastic. Sorry you didn't get that. CP3 may leave next year but it's not going to be to NY. He has a great situation here. This stuff about NY is bull crap and nothing more. He would have to go to a team with Cap space. The NY Knicks have none.

apostle
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Yeah haha I didn't realize u were being sarcastic its all good, Actually him going to New York isn't exactly bullcrap especially if they don't re-sign Lin<if so they will have money to offer CP3 and trust me the Knicks owners dont care about paying the luxury tax penalties for a year or two,I do realize we could offer CP3 the most money and have signed all the players he wanted(Billups,Crawford,etc)but that isn't always enough sometimes.It's troubling though that Lin a player that can make the Knicks so much money won't be re-signed the only logical explanation is that thy think theyll get CP3 next year,even Carmelo was laughing when asked about CP3 going there next summer.

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They would need to shed either Melo, or Amar'e in order to fit CP3 in. Even then, I think they need more space.

Amar'e is stuck in NY. He's not insured so no team is going to take a shot at him. I doubt we sign and trade CP3 to NY so no worries here.

apostle
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I don't know I don't think the Knicks just like the Brooklyn Nets care about the luxury tax but whatever even if that happens we still have Bledsoe who's learning under CP3 and Billups<we lucked out

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it's not about them caring about the luxury tax. there are rules. the knicks are over the cap for a long time.

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What are they going to offer him the MLE??? LOL!!!

CP3Best
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Hey guys apparently rockets and Magic aren't on such good terms since Rockets only want to give 2 draft picks and take on only 1 huge contract. I'm not sure on how many draft picks we have in the future, but could we somewhat get in the picture? Lakers have no future 1st rounders since they traded them for Nash! I don't know if we'll be able to take on any bad contracts the magic want to toss along with Howard, but someone give me some insight as to why we can or can't do this!

Turtle
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I say this, if the Clippers don't make the Western Conference Finals or Finals, CP3 may consider leaving (especially if we get bounced in the 1st round). Keep that in mind. We can't go backwards after last season. We have to improve. CP3 is tired of not winning the championship..

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Soooo, is there any possible trade for Howard?

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Luxury tax has nothing to do with it. They have to have cap space to take CP3 in. They won't have any cap space next season so they can't ...Repeat...they can't sign CP3 as a free agent.

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Well, he'll be able to go to any team he wants. Of course, they'll have to have at least 20 million in cap space. That's going to be real hard to find a contender with that much cap space. If CP3 wants to leave, I doubt we help him get a max contract for scrubs in return.

I also heard that teams in the luxury tax ( 4 million or more) , won't be able to sign and trade players next season. This makes it even harder for CP3 to find a team.

CP3Best
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So he is staying for next season and more? Good! I say we hold on to our 1st round pick next year and get another awesome 2 or 3 guard!

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http://www.hoopsworld.com/new-york-knicks-team-salary

add Steve Novak, J.R. Smith, Marcus Camby and now raymond felton and you see why CP3 getting to NY is near impossible...

If the Clippers are to lose CP3, there is no way they do a sign and trade for the likes of Amare Stoudamire or Tyson Chandler to replace him... and last i remember the Knicks don't have a 20 milllion trade exception to use either... So no need to bring up the how the Lakers got Steve Nash Topic.

3 team deals are also very hard to get done, look at the Dwight Howard situation.. If CP3 leaves its going to be via FA.. and if he leaves like that than so be it, he wont be going to NY via FA i can tell you that..

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So he ain't leaving. He has expressed no desire to leave or wanted to be traded or any hints he doesn't like the situation in Clipperland. We can offer more money, we have a better situation. That's the end of story for CP3 leaving!

apostle
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I've been saying that for a bit as well Bledsoe a 1st(or 2)and Caron Butler and his expiring contract should be able to get us a solid 2,or 3 (Paul George,Igoudala<not 4 that much tho,or maybe even Harden)

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^not a good trade considering we dont have another pg on this squad besides ebled. considering cp3's injury history, u need a good backup pg. another thing is that while both teams would be intrigued to take ebled, they wouldnt be so thrilled to take back butler due to his contract, injury history and age. honestly i wouldnt trade ebled for george straight up. we dont need george or iggy. we need to go after someone solid like delfino in a Sign and Trade. and f*** no to acquiring howard. i wish the magic would send him to washington for nene and wall. lol

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If you read the article, it basically is describing how there's no way the Knicks can fit CP3 into their payroll with the crazy luxury tax rules next season. The Knicks not matching on Jeremy Lin sort of scares me, but still, they would need to move Amare or Carmelo to be able to bring CP3 in. Unless he is totally nuts and decides to take a huge pay cut...like $50 mil less to play for the Knicks. That would make no sense to do that to go to another team that has pretty much the same chance to win a title as the Clippers.

As far as D12 goes, I still believe there's no scenario that does not ultimately play out with Howard on the Lakers. It's his destiny to join the fraternity of Mikan, Chamberlain, Jabbar, and Shaq. Not sure why he's fighting it, but that will happen. So there's no pairing of CP3 with Howard either because the Lakers certainly will not have room with Nash signed for 3 years.

apostle
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This trade I meant that we should go for next year but yeah only if Chris paul stays of course,and Billups could even back up CP3(next year 2). And the thing is after next year Bledsoe and Butler have only 1 more year left on their contracts,so if Cp3 stays there's no way we can keep Bledsoe who will get paid a lot,and Butler(who can still play and with 1 hand even)on an expiring contract will be valuable regardless.

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^cp3 will leave the clips..... when he retires. he will resign with us since the teams that can try to sign him dont have the talent the clippers have. and those that do dont have the cap space to do it. i dont think the howard to the lakers will pan out due to the fact that the magic want to ship out bad contracts to the team that gets him. even if the lakers trade both gasol and bynum to get howard, they will probably have to take back howard, along with jason richardson and hedo turkoglu. im sure they would amnesty turkoglu, but still howard+richardson+kobe+artest+nash+blake make close to 85 million dollars combined. the luxury tax will be a huge reason they wouldnt want to trade for howard by taking salaries back.

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apostle wrote:
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^not a good trade considering we dont have another pg on this squad besides ebled. considering cp3's injury history, u need a good backup pg. another thing is that while both teams would be intrigued to take ebled, they wouldnt be so thrilled to take back butler due to his contract, injury history and age. honestly i wouldnt trade ebled for george straight up. we dont need george or iggy. we need to go after someone solid like delfino in a Sign and Trade. and f*** no to acquiring howard. i wish the magic would send him to washington for nene and wall. lol

This trade I meant that we should go for next year but yeah only if Chris paul stays of course,and Billups could even back up CP3(next year 2). And the thing is after next year Bledsoe and Butler have only 1 more year left on their contracts,so if Cp3 stays there's no way we can keep Bledsoe who will get paid a lot,and Butler(who can still play and with 1 hand even)on an expiring contract will be valuable regardless.

well putting it that way it makes sense. this is also contingent on dj improving enough to be worth the 11 million a year he gets paid. since it appears that we wont amnesty gomes we can always amnesty dj if it came to that. not hoping for that since i feel dj can develop. i think butler will get moved if anything. i think ebled will be part of this team for the coming years. but i guess if the right trade were to come along, then he could be possibly moved. we shall see

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No, don't worry, the knicks have $60 million in non-bird salary in just anthony, amare, Chandler and Felton in 2013-14. That means they can't sign cp3 outright. They can sign and trade, bit they would gave to trade one of their big salary Players.

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At This Time, Only A Handful Of Players Are Worth The MAX.

Kevin Durant, Lebron James, Andrew Bynum, Dwight Howard, Deron Williams, Kevin Love, Derrick Rose, Chris Bosh, Russell Westbrook. Even That List Has Some Shakey Players Deserving The Max.

I'm Not Saying CP3 Doesn't Deserve The Max. He In All Respect Does. But He's Too Injury Prone And To Tie Him Up In A 5 Year Contract For The The Max Deal Of $108 Is Too Much. The Offer Of What Other Teams Can Offer (I Think $100) Is Reasonable To Offer. Give Us That Little Bit That Makes All The Difference In Getting Another Player. To Be Honest, I Think $95mil To CP3 Is More Than Enough. But Thats Just My Thoughts On It.

#imjustsayin

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I kind of agree! But it would be bad faith on our part not to fully commit.

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With Lin coming west, don't know if CP's gonna start another all-star game with us.

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You have to fully commit. This is today's athlete,,,they go where the money is good and they want the most,,,,,so if we got it,,we have him. It is up to the FO to not eff this up

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They won't. Did they screw it up with Griffin? No! I don't think they'll screw it up with our pg of the future!

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