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slestack11
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I know this isn't really a Clipper topic per se but we do/did have two Olympians on our roster for this years squad so I wanted to post this question. Do you agree with Kobe that this years squad can beat the 1992 Dream Team? I'm a believer that the players of today are always better and more athletic than the players of the past in all physical sports. Primarily due to what guys like MJ, Magic, and Bird had accomplished, players today learned and improved. MJ was the first to get a personal training regimen and that's why he was able to stay in better shape and dominate his era. Now everyone does it so, to me, guys like Kobe are going up against stiffer competition. Plus, there's better technology today to turn into an action figure.

Anyway, this years Dream Team are missing quite a few stars due to injury so it might be close, but lets look at a side by side comparison:

1992

PG Magic, Stockton

SG Jordan, Drexler

SF Bird, Pippen, Mullen

PF Barkley, Malone, Laettner

C Robinson, Ewing

Todays Team

PG CP3, D-Will, Russell Westbrook

SG Kobe, Harden

SF Lebron, Durant, Carmelo, Iguodala

PF Blake Griffin, Kevin Love

C Tyson Chandler

Potential Today's Dream Team

PG CP3, D-Will, D-Rose

SG Kobe, D-Wade

SF Lebron, Durant, Carmelo

PF Blake Griffin, Chris Bosh (or Duncan if we're looking to throw old HOFers with names on the team like Bird)

C Dwight Howard, Andrew Bynum

Imagine a lineup of D-Wade, Kobe, Lebron, Durant, and Howard...that would be sick. Tell me this team wouldn't pummel the 1992 Dream Team?

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dream team would molest them.

bird magic mj > lebron kobz durant

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Are you considering the same Larry Bird who spent the majority of the Olympics resting his ailing back and the Magic that was out of basketball shape for a year prior to 1992? I mean, to be fair, we should also count a Kobe that has many miles on him too.

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The OG Dream Team Will Kill The New Team, Just By The Style Of Playing. There Weren't Any Flagrant Fouls Back Then, There Were Only Hard Fouls. Just By That, The Original Team Will Win.

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They had the best defense of all time. We would be obliterated by the bigs with their defense and post game. Pipen was asked on his input and he said they would win by 20-25 points!

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The players today are also about 20% larger across the board. I don't think many of those guys...Barkley included, could take down a charging Lebron.

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Players are also very versatile. KD LBJ, can all play awesome defense, shoot, and drive

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1992 hands down!

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It would be at least a 10 pt margin for the real dream team. Jordan alone would strike fear in the guys nowadays. They were a complete team. This team couldnt match with the size of 1992. Also this team doesnt really have any decent shooters. I wouldnt even want to know what barkely would do to these guys in the block.

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Sure glad Kobe is a Laker! LOL! lol

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It still amazes me that Paul Pierce has never been an Olympian.

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ok, you asked for it. This team wouldnt pummel the Dream Team, wouldnt even come close actually. First off, these players dont play near the amount of defense or even as hard as those guys did on the original dream team. When everyone but one of the players make the Hall of Fame after their careers are over. Players like Westbrook, Melo, D Will, Bosh, Bynum, and probably K Love are going to be the classic had a good career but not one of the nba greats. Then there is Tyson Chandler who is as mediocre as they come in comparison to the great bigs of the league.

The original dream team played with heart beyond belief and I just dont see that in this one, or even the sense of team play. People always want to compare to the original great but sadly, i dont think there will ever be another team that comes close in any sport to the original dream team. Most fans under the age of 30 dont understand how amazing those players were especially the bigs. Bigs with that kind of finesse and prowess on both the offensive and defensive end dont exist anymore.

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Yup, this convo was all started by Kobe. Kobe's line of thinking was based on the age and condition of Magic and Bird. Jordan laughed it off while Barkley took a big jab at Kobe. Barkley basically said that Kobe shouldn't be talking, he's in the same position Magic and Bird were in ( age wise).

Anyway, as far as who would win, The Dream Team. Pippen would slow Lebron or Durant in stretches. Barkley and Malone would eat Love's lunch. The 2012 team have no bigs so Robinson and Ewing would have their way. You add a prime Jordan to the mix and all I'll say is...LeBron who? 2012 team are a bunch of the best players that don't look like they mesh.

Kobe, you have said a lot of arrogant things the last few weeks. Keep your trap shut. Now you have guys like Kyrie Erving challenging you! Now you're just sounding like a punch drunk fighter who can't cash the checks he's writing.

Kyrie Irving Challenges Kobe Bryant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... uG8ubgvSSQ

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haha, well put Joe. Reppage

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The original dream team would tear this team a new one.

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slestack11 wrote:
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The OG Dream Team Will Kill The New Team, Just By The Style Of Playing. There Weren't Any Flagrant Fouls Back Then, There Were Only Hard Fouls. Just By That, The Original Team Will Win.

The players today are also about 20% larger across the board. I don't think many of those guys...Barkley included, could take down a charging Lebron.

lol, slestack you gotta put down the laker koolaid you always drink. You must not have watched Barkley in his prime to make a statement like that. Barkley took down and held his own against a charging shaq, lol. Enough said.

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Pipen said they would win by 20-25 points. IMO difference would be as much as between the bobcats and clippers!

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Kobe is now backtracking his comments. he's basically saying that he meant one game. He's saying they never specified whether it was a series or a game. . I swear, you can't make this stuff up.

ha ha ha!!!!

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Did the original dream team beat someone by 54 points, cause that's what USA did yesterday. If they didn't then I have to agree with Bryant!

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As much as i love Dream Team and all the players that was on it, you'd be silly to think that this team couldn't beat them( with the original squad of course with DRose and DHoward). The Players now are a lot bigger and faster. People remember Dream Team beating up the world by 50 or so points, But seriously, those teams were as bad as the Dominican team if not worst. The game has change, plays have been more strategic on defensive and offensive ends, better coaching. It's two different era's. If you let those guys play like they do now, they'd be having a hard time guarding the guys now because of the ticky tack fouls, so you can't really say the defense was better, because in hindsight, they let them abuse the offensive players. It can also be said that if the guys play like they did then, you can say they couldn't take the abuse and physicallity. I'm sure both era's would adjust, so we can't really know. I'd still say the original Dream Team is better, but you can't say it would be a blowout or anything, i would say it would be pretty close. MJ couldn't guard Kobe, Kobe couldn't guard MJ. Lebron Vs Magic, similar players but Lebron is more powerful and faster, but Magic was the overal better player. Bird Vs Durant, big outside shooters.

It's all about the era you grew up watching. People argue that Wilt was better then MJ because they saw him play or even for Bill Russell. All matter of opionion. But i would say 6, maybe 7out of 10 original dream team would beat today's team with the original squad of Rose and Dwight in there. No way it's a blowout.

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People tend to hold older generations in a higher, more-esteemed light. The international league wasnt as strong back then so they looked more dominant. and people need to stop talking about MJ like he was/is/and always will be the best player of all time. He was good in his generation and that's that.

I give the edge to the current squad.

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Jordan is one of a few players that transcends eras. Most of these players emulate Jordan's game in a much more offensive friendly atmosphere. Sorry, all these new blood players "want to be like Mike".

23 is still one of the most popular numbers to sport. And if you're like Kobe, you try and one up him by going 24.

Michael Jordan was and is the player most of these guys admire.

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Old skool all the way. But LeBron would still be a tough cover.

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All I'm saying is that if the ORIGINAL dream team was currently playing, and the CURRENT Olympic team played in 1992, we'd be saying LeBron as the GOAT and MJ's squad would have a tough time.

There's always more reverence to the classic players/teams.

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Read this breakdown....reverence has got nothing to do with it.

http://www.thenbageek.com/

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I wonder how Christian Laettner feels to this day about being the token non-HOFer on that squad.

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Laettner is first ballot college HOFer

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I've always thought that Shaq should have been selected to that Dream Team as he was the #1 pick in the draft that year. However, I do see why taking Laettner, who was the college player of the year, was a nice gesture. I grew up in LA in the 80's so obviously, as a kid, I was a huge Magic Johnson fan (Yes, I did like Danny Manning too). However, most of my Jr. High to High School years were during the Jordan era. Actually, my dream was for the Lakers to someday acquire a guy like....

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A good question to ask is what era are we in? ..i ask this because several current star players like Kobe, Garnett, Allen, Pierce, Dirk, Duncan, Shaq ( ill put him in there ) we're around in the 90's...and several 90's Hall of Fame/Dream Teamers played onto the 2000's ( Jordan, Pippen, Stockton, Malone, Robinson, Ewing, Mullin etc...so all these players crossed paths w/each other and from what i recollect the older guard didnt have many problems with the newer guard..just how Kobe, Garnett, Pierce, Duncan are still able to stay with for the most part w/ the new younger stars like Howard, Rose, Durant, Lebron etc.....so this whole talk of how the game has changed and how players from yester-year wouldnt be able to keep up doesnt sound to accurate to me........ btw saying this ill take the 1992 Dream Team over anyone any day....that was the perfect team and nothing or nobody beats perfection Smile

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They have different time, the 92 DT was unbeatable because the Europian player we're intimidated by our DT superstars unlike todays generation a lot of them are already playing in the NBA, like the Gasol's brothers. todays DT are so athletic, although a lot of them imitate the old guys moves it's just normal. but they are now better than the old guys. IMO todays DT are better than 92. Its like, who is better president Abraham Lincoln or Bill Clinton (sorry for Obama).

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Hmmm....also would like to point out that most of the past NBA Champions were teams that had older stars or teams that had skilled players and key positions....the exception being the 2012 Miami Heat IMP.....but look at the 80's Celtics, Lakers, Pistons..90's Bulls , Rockets, 00's Lakers, Spurs , Pistons, Celtics, Mavs..even the 06 Heat...all teams with good all around players w/skill and a mix of old and experienced vets.....my point is you dont see many of these so called athletic high flying youngters winning much at all.....basketball is much more than quickness and speed...it takes skill and brains....someone i dont think many of the new star players have today with the exception of Lebron, Durant and CP3 etc.....i just dont buy Carmelo, Howard , Westbrook etc....anyhow, i hope im wrong because Blake need to work on his skills and polish his game after Mchale, Malone and Barkley Smile

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tense2 wrote:
ekker3 wrote:
All I'm saying is that if the ORIGINAL dream team was currently playing, and the CURRENT Olympic team played in 1992, we'd be saying LeBron as the GOAT and MJ's squad would have a tough time.

There's always more reverence to the classic players/teams.

Read this breakdown....reverence has got nothing to do with it.

http://www.thenbageek.com/

how can different seasons from different players on different teams in different eras be compared accurately?

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ekker3 wrote:
tense2 wrote:
ekker3 wrote:
All I'm saying is that if the ORIGINAL dream team was currently playing, and the CURRENT Olympic team played in 1992, we'd be saying LeBron as the GOAT and MJ's squad would have a tough time.

There's always more reverence to the classic players/teams.

Read this breakdown....reverence has got nothing to do with it.

http://www.thenbageek.com/

how can different seasons from different players on different teams in different eras be compared accurately?

apparently they can. I'm sure if your inquire about that, he'll give you an satisfactory answer....or at least a thought out/reasonable one.

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First dream team. Too much size and skill at the 4-5. Massively better defensively especially on the interior, and a lot better on the perimeter as well. I think Magic and Bird were on the tail end of their careers, and I think magic is somewhat being overrated when discussing the team because he wasn't the same Magic as he was in his prime. Bird was still wet, but dude was old at that point as well. LBJ and Kobe would have made that squad, and Cp3 and Durant have a good shot at making dream team one and that's it.

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The original Dream Team would have had their way inside against this Team USA. Ewing, Robinson, Barkley and Malone were all inside forces offensively and I'd take Ewing/Robinson's defense even against Dwight Howard. The new team's defenders act like the team would have run all over the original's big men, but they forget those big men could run too. The original Dream Team also had 3 members of the amazing 1984 Gold Medal Team, Jordan, Ewing and Mullin, which I think is also one of the best Olympic teams of all time.

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