We must thank Mike Dunleavy for what he's done!!

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dkongos
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There's much hate and love surrounding Mike. Love for the fact that he took us to the playoffs in 2006, and hate for just about everything else. Today, I just realized that Mike was our GM in 2008 and 2009, in which he did an AMAZING JOB, second to Sam Presti in my opinion. In 2008 we drafted Eric Gordon and DeAndre Jordan. In 2009 it was obviously Blake Griffin and a trade for Eric Bledsoe. Imagine if we had a different GM? Eric Gordon would have never turned into Chris Paul, we would have never had a solid center (albiet he has much improving to do), and arguably one of the best backup PG's in the league. Blake was the obvious choice,the rest were complete steals. Therefore, I salute you Mike Dunleavy. Many people will put you down, but you definitely steered the Clips in the right direction.

CP3Best
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Thank you Dunleavy! But you're a bad coach, just terrible!

FightOnRon
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You mean thank him for leaving?

GhostShip
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Dunleavy was no a bad coach at all. He ran into problems of over coaching with this team. Also the team got tired of hearing him as well. Dunleavy could coach again and be a great coach if he just didnt have to put his hand into every play. If we combined VDN and Dunleavy we would have a terrific coach.

slestack11
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I asked Dunleavy why he decided to put Daniel Ewing in the game and let Raja Bell get that wide open 3 pointer in Game 5 of the 2005/06 series vs the Suns. I still don't understand why the Clippers defense was guarding the paint when it was clear that the Suns needed a 3 to tie and there was like 2 seconds on the clock. Anyway, I attended their coach chalktalk event and asked him the question and he refused to talk about it.

dkongos
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It seems like people are missing the point, I'm not talking about Mike Dunleavy's coaching. I'm talking about how well he did while he was the temporary GM once Elgin Baylor left. If Dunleavy did not make those moves we wouldn't be in this great situation right now. People also tend to forget that Dunleavy was one of the only coaches ever to even take the Clippers to the playoffs. He left on a bad note, I agree with that.

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^ I get what you're saying. The biggest beneficiary was Neil Olshey. He got Dun's job, and all those assets to play with.

seanrooks
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Everybody needs to look at the Clippers rosters between the Brand and Griffin eras(basically 08-10). We had guys like Fred Jones and Dan Dickau and Rick Brunson and Drew Gooden and Al Thornton playing big minutes. Our teams were built around Chris Kaman, Marcus Camby, and a washed up/oft-injured Baron Davis, and Zach Randolph for less than half of a season. Compare that to Griffin, Paul, Butler, Billups, Mo Williams...I mean, remember last year when Bobby Simmons would play like 2 minutes a game and we'd all groan? He could have started on some of those 08-10 teams. When he had a decent squad(Brand, Cassell, Mobley, Maggette...) he got them to within one game of the second round. He coached some Lakers and Blazers teams deep into the playoffs before. So I don't think being unable to make a team that starts Rick Brunson and Al Thornton a playoff team makes you a bad coach.

slestack11
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Dunleavy did take Koralev over Danny Granger. Sure people make draft mistakes all the time, but there was not a single draft board outside of Dunleavy's office that had Koralev ranked ahead of Granger. Not that I think Dunleavy was a horrible GM...I mean anyone off the street is an improvement over Elgin Baylor. But here's how I would have played some of his picks differently:

2005 draft: Clippers took Koralev over Granger. Almost everyone would have taken Granger that year who had a total chip on his shoulder for dropping so far.

2006 draft: No pick as it was traded for Corey Magette. I think this was a good move.

2007 draft: Clippers picked Thornton and I had never heard of him before. I would have traded up to get Acie Law, but would have been a bad move too. Ironically, I also wanted them to pick Nick Young that year.

2008 draft: Clippers picked Eric Gordon and I would have picked Brook Lopez at that spot. I really wanted the Clippers to move up to draft Russell Westbrook or OJ Mayo, but I was pretty shocked at how high Westbrook ended up going. I guess Thunder knew something. Glad Clippers dumped Gordon while he had some value.

2009 draft: Clippers took Blake Griffin. No brainer. I believe this was Dunleavy's last pick as part of the Clippers.

I don't know if Dunleavy was involved in the Tyson Chandler for Elton Brand trade, but that was a good move. Also the Marco Jaric and Lionel Chalmers for Sam Cassell move was good too. Overall, I'd say Dunleavy did ok as GM, but not as good as our vacant GM situation that added Billups, Crawford, Odom, Grant Hill, and re-signed Blake Griffin.

dkongos
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^^ You're kidding me right? Dunleavy was only the GM in the years of 2008 and 2009, and that was because Elgin Baylor was fired. As for all the boneheaded moves that happened the previous years, Dunleavy had no part in it. As for Elton Brand, he was traded to the Clippers LONG before Dunleavy was ever a part of the Clippers. How do you not know AT LEAST the Elton Brand part?

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ummm dkongos for someone who is being so critical to what others say you might want to take a look at your original post..

Dunleavy was nowhere near eric bledsoe... And eric Bledsoe was nowhere near the 2009 draft...

dkongos
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You're right, I was wrong about Bledsoe, but that doesn't take away from my point about Dunleavy.

dkongos
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Also I wasn't being critical about the fact that he didn't know about Dunleavy only being the GM in 2008 and 2009. What blew my mind away was the fact that the Clippers aquired Elton Brand in 2009, that's 3 or 4 years Mike was even our coach.

dkongos
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in 1999**

Steady818
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I never hated on Mike Dunleavy... He was just a product of setting the expectations way too high after that 05-06 run and never coming close to meeting them. If it wasn't for him we might have still been stuck with a tight wallet owner because i truely believe he was the one who opened up Sterlings Pockets..

slestack11
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You should check the Clippers roster in 2009 and 1999. Elton Brand was not a part of it. Try 2001.

-GeoffClankinsDaddy-
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neil olshey got bledsoe not mike

gordon was a top 3 pick once, then his stock dropped cause of inury i think? Gordon wasn't a "shocker" pick

deandre was good at 35 but ppl thought he was a lottery pick in highschool and who wouldnt have picked him if he was in the 2nd round

I think in 2008 he gave us the worst lockeroom ever

baron ricky zach all those guys

remember when everyone was going crazy when we got baron, ej, dj, mike taylor and then signed ricky d, jwill, traded knight for jhart, traded for camby, signed paul davis and novak lol then traded mobley thomas for zach when NY WAS CLEARING SPACE FOR LEBRON lol those were the good ol days

Amnesty_David_Stern
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Whoever the hell decided to pull the trigger on DJ is a genius and should be given a week long trip to Bermuda. Guy was passed on by everyone and could have went top 10 that year had he not had character issues and gotten suspended and kicked off his Texas A&M team.

I am super shocked the Spurs, MAvs or Jazz didnt take a chance on him, those teams had /have great reputations for fixing troubled players and/or turning raw talent into something worth a damn.

Granted, DJ is overpaid but what Center isn't? If DJ can give us 10 points, close to 10 or more boards, 2 blocks and play solid man D I'll call it a win. Not bad for a 2nd rounder.

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