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Post ID: 301634by Grillinnap » Aug 25, 2012 - 02:14 PM PST
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What are you trying to say? That those are comparable to the daily violence in Mexico?
Don't want this to keep going off topic but what about the daily violence in America?Turn on the news,every day someone gets killed or injured in America.I can go on youtube and find millions of clips that make America look dangerous.

Point is there is crime and crazy people everywhere.You can't say the entire country is filled with bad people cause it just isn't true at all.My Grandparents was born there and I still have family there so I have been to Mexico several times and sure it can be dangerous in certain areas but I have been in much more dangerous areas in America.You just need to know where to travel.

Of course not every part of Mexico is dangerous. You're more credible since you have a family down there. But please, the violence there is NOT comparable to the violence here. The cops can't even keep up with the murders there that majority of them are left unsolved with no suspects. Everyday, you will find a headless body especially in Ciudad Juarez. Tell me which US city is on par with that. Not to mention you don't know who to trust down there since their government is infested with crooks.

And that's the thing about Mexico. You really have to be careful where you go. Not even places like Cancun are 100% immune to cartel violence.

I'm just saying. Mexicans that don't have the luxury of living in nice neighborhoods live in fear. And if you want to have a vacation there, you better make sure the security is extremely tight. Would you need tight security to have a vacation in America? Yeah, well if you want to have a vacation in the ghetto.



                
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Post ID: 301635by CapsNClips » Aug 25, 2012 - 02:28 PM PST
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How about a smooth transition out of this mexico talk? Did you guy's hear Neil Armstrong died?

                
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Post ID: 301637by Grillinnap » Aug 25, 2012 - 02:31 PM PST
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How about we get back to Darko? Is he signed or not? The fact that this is still in the rumors section isn't a good sign.

                
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Post ID: 301640by CapsNClips » Aug 25, 2012 - 02:37 PM PST
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I really think we get Darko, but it's probably taking so long because we have to cut a player or somehow do a trade for him.

                
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Post ID: 301642by Grillinnap » Aug 25, 2012 - 02:53 PM PST
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Think we can trade Leslie for a future 2nd rounder instead of cutting him?

                
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Post ID: 301643by CapsNClips » Aug 25, 2012 - 02:55 PM PST
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it would probably be protected like the reggie evans deal

                
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Post ID: 301648by puddnhead83 » Aug 25, 2012 - 03:23 PM PST
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People get banned for saying the "Clippers Sucked" or "Lakers are Great" whatever. But when someone says "his contract is worth more than Mexico" (even if after you say you are joking which you are not) or "...the people are f*****", nothing happens.

The internet is full of many political forums and chats go spew your nonsense there or go back to blabbing to your wife about the talking points you heard today. Pretending like you came up with the conclusion, hiding the truth that you are just regurgitating another persons opinion.

                
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Post ID: 301649by CapsNClips » Aug 25, 2012 - 03:36 PM PST
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HAHA, you thought i was serious when i said his contract is worth more than Mexico? Sorry if i didn't say JK LOL at the end of it, I thought it was obvious that i was joking.

                
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Post ID: 301650by puddnhead83 » Aug 25, 2012 - 03:43 PM PST
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The joke is clear but the reason behind it is the point little girl. This is a Clippers forum not meet the press that is my point.

                
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Post ID: 301651by cashdld » Aug 25, 2012 - 04:00 PM PST
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Much rather Kenyon Martin, imagine. The bench lineup of Bledsoe/crawford/hill/odom/martin, it would be a perfect combo of offense/defense and athleticism, our bench would be unfair for opposing teams,we need some insurance in case odom doesn't work out and if deandre jordans. Doesn't become a consistent defender.

                
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Post ID: 301652by CapsNClips » Aug 25, 2012 - 04:06 PM PST
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I'd rather have Thompkins than Martin for insurance, Imagine Thompkins if he had playing time, he could be a real threat from the 3.

                
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Post ID: 301654by JustAFan2121 » Aug 25, 2012 - 04:46 PM PST
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Trade idea! Essentially it goes as this:

OKC gets: Deandre Jordan, Eric Bledsoe, Trey Thompkins and a future 2nd rounder LA gets: James Harden, Kendrick Perkins

This helps both teams. Becuase OKC used its $ to sign Serge Ibaka to a new deal last week, they can no longer afford James Harden at the incumbent price he'll cost after he receives a max-offer from a team next summer. By trading him during the season they won't have to worry about spending more money because both DJ and Ebled are on the books at their salaries for at least 2 seasons. The coaching staff in OKC is highly documented for their abilities to develop up and coming stars i.e. KD and Westbrook. For us, we get our future starter at SG when Billups contract comes off the books this year and it also puts "dwight's Kryptonite" in LA. What do you guys think??

                
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Post ID: 301655by Andrew818 » Aug 25, 2012 - 04:50 PM PST
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Would love to have K-Mart back but sadly it won't happen.I would like to sign Darko and see how he works out.If he is a problem then we can trade him.If he plays well with the Clippers package Leslie and Hollins together and see what we could get(hopefully another 3 or a pick).But still haven't heard any news about the signing which makes me think it might not happen or another team got involved and now Darko is weighing his options.First time we had talks with him the Bulls,Heat,Nets,and us were all interested.Pretty hard to choose from since all 4 are playoff teams.And he might still be in talks with Real Madrid so we just have to wait I guess.

                
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Post ID: 301659by ClipSince7thGrade » Aug 25, 2012 - 06:15 PM PST
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That sounds really good to me. I'd just hate to see DJ and Eric Bledsoe leaving the Clips.

                
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Post ID: 301663by -GeoffClankinsDaddy- » Aug 25, 2012 - 06:44 PM PST
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you'll get used to it. I got banned for saying your mom to a laker fan troll when before me the same users were cussing the life out of that guy. Its pretty funny actually..

                
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Post ID: 301664by cashdld » Aug 25, 2012 - 07:29 PM PST
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Would be nice for him to develop but the way this team is currently built we are in win now mode, not rebuild let's wait and develop mode, we want players with experience. Thompkins will get his shot in due time

                
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Post ID: 301687by CP3Best » Aug 25, 2012 - 10:52 PM PST
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Eric Bledsoe will be awesome if he can shoot the 3, he has streaks sometimes he can shoot good, sometimes bad, We're not letting go of him, he's too good for our bench!

                
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Post ID: 301689by mcmb2 » Aug 25, 2012 - 10:57 PM PST
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I dont like using this word but.....that bench would be filthy.

All 5 of those players are have length, athleticism, and skill. A lot of people want a traditional backup center to "match up" with D12 but I say play to your advantages. The clippers have to outrun teams like the lakers and outsmart teams like the thunder.

But regarding K-Mart, it's too bad it would be impossible because we have a ton of forwards right now and he doesn't seem like he wants to return. I do like the fact that he can still guard some 3's (not very well but his D is still respectable). And he brings toughness.

It would have been great to sign Kenyon and Darko over Turiaf and Hollins but it's all good. This team is still looking nice.

                
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Post ID: 301691by CP3Best » Aug 25, 2012 - 11:00 PM PST
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Kmart wanted money, Darko has a bad attitude, guess FO wanted good character guys not gangsters like Darko, or WPoS

                
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Post ID: 301693by cashdld » Aug 25, 2012 - 11:24 PM PST
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mcmb2 wrote:
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Much rather Kenyon Martin, imagine. The bench lineup of Bledsoe/crawford/hill/odom/martin, it would be a perfect combo of offense/defense and athleticism, our bench would be unfair for opposing teams,we need some insurance in case odom doesn't work out and if deandre jordans. Doesn't become a consistent defender.

I dont like using this word but.....that bench would be filthy.

All 5 of those players are have length, athleticism, and skill. A lot of people want a traditional backup center to "match up" with D12 but I say play to your advantages. The clippers have to outrun teams like the lakers and outsmart teams like the thunder.

But regarding K-Mart, it's too bad it would be impossible because we have a ton of forwards right now and he doesn't seem like he wants to return. I do like the fact that he can still guard some 3's (not very well but his D is still respectable). And he brings toughness.

It would have been great to sign Kenyon and Darko over Turiaf and Hollins but it's all good. This team is still looking nice.

yea i wouldve played Kmart at the 5, that where he got most of his minutes on the team, last season when he would be in a lineup with Blake or Reggie Evans.

                
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Post ID: 301694by cashdld » Aug 25, 2012 - 11:28 PM PST
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Well the teams that have been interested in KMART have had on the veterans Minimum. At least we can resign for the 120% increase. Plus his family is out here too. additional with all the veterans ( billups,hill, odom, CP3) on this team im sure they can help him look at the bigger picture in a reduced role.

                
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Post ID: 301696by CP3Best » Aug 25, 2012 - 11:49 PM PST
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very reduced role!

                
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Post ID: 301704by Andrew818 » Aug 26, 2012 - 01:12 AM PST
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Since the rumor is Martin doesn't want to return to the Clippers,could we do a sign and trade with him still?Nets are interested in him and don't care about going over the cap so maybe we could sign and trade him and get MarShon Brooks who they seem to want to get rid of.Would work out for Martin because he gets the 120% increase by signing with us and we get the 2/3 we need.

Also with Brooks we get a guy who can/has played the 1-3 positions and is still on his rookie contract.He has a lot of potential and can be our future starting/back up 2 next season when Billups contract is up.Working with our vets can really grow his game and if Butler or Hill get injured we won't have anything to worry about because even though he is 6'5" he has a big wingspan and can guard 3's.Also we can rotate between him,Willie and Crawford until Billups is healthy.

Could see him wanting more minutes but he won't get much minutes with the Nets either.At least with us he knows he will get a upgraded role next season for sure since Billups and Green are only on 1 year contracts(Greens contract is only one year guaranteed).

                
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Post ID: 301716by CP3Best » Aug 26, 2012 - 11:14 AM PST
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DTS doesn't want to go over the tax threshold! I don't think we're adding anyone else besides a vet min probably, like Darko!

                
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Post ID: 301719by Andrew818 » Aug 26, 2012 - 01:00 PM PST
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According to EP we are already over the soft cap and not near the hard cap

                
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Post ID: 301724by CP3Best » Aug 26, 2012 - 04:42 PM PST
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We have 69 mil on the books!

                
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Post ID: 301729by Andrew818 » Aug 26, 2012 - 05:17 PM PST
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Hoopsworld says:Over the cap.Under the tax by $1.3 million.Hard cap.

Brooks contract is $1,160,040.So we won't pay taxes if I understand it correctly.And we still have some trade exceptions in case of injury.But I asked EP on twitter and he said Nets probably won't want to move Brooks.Only reason they seemed to entertain the idea earlier in the summer was to get another pick so they could get Howard.We might be able to work out the deal for Keith Bogans or Stackhouse but both are up there in age as well so probably won't happen.Looks like roster is done unless we get Darko but those rumors seem to be dead at the moment.Either way I'm excited for the season and am really looking forward to see all the new guys and also Bledsoe.He looked like a beast against the Spurs.

                
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Post ID: 301732by CP3Best » Aug 26, 2012 - 05:34 PM PST
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We're gonna let our own rookie clog the bench, not ones with lots of potential!

                
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Post ID: 301766by puddnhead83 » Aug 27, 2012 - 12:43 PM PST
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-GeoffClankinsDaddy- wrote:
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People get banned for saying the "Clippers Sucked" or "Lakers are Great" whatever. But when someone says "his contract is worth more than Mexico" (even if after you say you are joking which you are not) or "...the people are f*****", nothing happens.

The internet is full of many political forums and chats go spew your nonsense there or go back to blabbing to your wife about the talking points you heard today. Pretending like you came up with the conclusion, hiding the truth that you are just regurgitating another persons opinion.

you'll get used to it. I got banned for saying your mom to a laker fan troll when before me the same users were cussing the life out of that guy. Its pretty funny actually..

I guess if you say lol or jk after you can say whatever you. I'll remember that.

                
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Post ID: 301775by CP3Best » Aug 27, 2012 - 01:49 PM PST
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Are we signing Darko or what?

                
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Post ID: 301778by Greenmonk94 » Aug 27, 2012 - 02:26 PM PST
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if not shut this thread down.. just make a thread called gossip girls.. then we all talk about what blake is doing now in mexico!(sarcasm)

                
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Post ID: 301781by CP3Best » Aug 27, 2012 - 02:58 PM PST
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we should shut those down or vote down them, we're talking clipper BASKETBALL not blake's vacation with his gf!

                
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Post ID: 301782by Mistwell » Aug 27, 2012 - 02:58 PM PST
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Um, there is no hard cap. There is the salary cap, and then there is the luxury tax line. You can blow past the luxury tax line - you just have to pay more. Lakers are doing that in spades this year. So what's this mention of a hard cap?

                
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Post ID: 301784by CP3Best » Aug 27, 2012 - 03:13 PM PST
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Can't wait for DTS to get some of that dough from the lux tax it's gonna give him more spending power and he's not gonna be cheap as in past years!

                
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Post ID: 301996by wessleejr » Aug 29, 2012 - 10:52 AM PST
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i thought we're close to signing darko, ........when?

                
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Post ID: 301999by CP3Best » Aug 29, 2012 - 10:58 AM PST
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I don't think we are, we're probably gonna sign Ammo after training camp!

                
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Post ID: 302014by JamFan » Aug 29, 2012 - 01:21 PM PST
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There are no confirming reports of the Clippers signing Darko. Just a couple of Euro rumors that don't amount to squat. If there was anything to this, we would get some confirming rumors or reports over here in the states. Not happening. If you don't believe me.....Google LA Clippers Darko Milicic and see if you can find anything anywhere. The only place this is being talked about is here on TopBuzz. You will only find old reports back in July before we signed Hollins.

                
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Post ID: 302027by CP3Best » Aug 29, 2012 - 02:21 PM PST
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Yeah this is a dead rumor, we aren't signing Darko!

                
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Post ID: 302091by Andrew818 » Aug 29, 2012 - 07:47 PM PST
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Until Darko is signed somewhere,it isn't dead.Remember when it was first reported that the Clippers signed Willie Green,then they took it off the site and announced it a couple of days later.So they could be still working out the deal but the rumor never seemed to get around the US media and it has been pretty slow so that makes me skeptical.

                
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Post ID: 302094by CP3Best » Aug 29, 2012 - 07:58 PM PST
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With Green few days, with Darko a week and a little bit! Well we may sign, him, would love to have him, let's see what happens!

                
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Post ID: 302123by Andrew818 » Aug 30, 2012 - 12:22 AM PST
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I think Clippers are waiting to see if other teams cut some players.A lot of teams have rookies coming in or have big roster and might let some players go so maybe they are just waiting to see if they could find a valuable piece before committing to another guy and feeling up the roster.At this point all we can do is wait but I don't mind after all the moves Clippers have made so far.Done a very good job so far so don't mind waiting.

                
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Post ID: 302125by CapsNClips » Aug 30, 2012 - 12:38 AM PST
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That actually makes a lot of sense, that has to be what they are doing. C'mon Miami, cut LeBron.

                
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Post ID: 302149by CP3Best » Aug 30, 2012 - 09:31 AM PST
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Let's hope that the Mavs cut Jae Crowder or one of their 7 forwards!

                
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Post ID: 302207by Andrew818 » Aug 30, 2012 - 07:06 PM PST
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That actually makes a lot of sense, that has to be what they are doing. C'mon Miami, cut LeBron.

lol I doubt him but maybe James Jones or Mike Miller will get cut since Lewis is there now.Heat seem to like these guys but having Jones,Miller,Battier,Lewis,and Allen all signed as back ups doesn't make much since.I think Miller might go since he has been dealing with injuries for so long or maybe Jones or even Battier.Any of the 3 would be good for us.They can all shoot well from the 3 point line which is something we need from our 3rd string 3.Also Houston has a lot of young forwards on there roster.So we could probably pick one of them up.I think this is what Clippers are doing because once training camps are done you are going to see a lot of vets and rookies being cut/waived.Might be able to get a solid player.

                
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Their not cutting Crowder...he's one of the jewels of the 2nd round draft. Man I was wishing he would fall to us.

                
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Andrew818 wrote:
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That actually makes a lot of sense, that has to be what they are doing. C'mon Miami, cut LeBron.

lol I doubt him but maybe James Jones or Mike Miller will get cut since Lewis is there now.Heat seem to like these guys but having Jones,Miller,Battier,Lewis,and Allen all signed as back ups doesn't make much since.I think Miller might go since he has been dealing with injuries for so long or maybe Jones or even Battier.Any of the 3 would be good for us.They can all shoot well from the 3 point line which is something we need from our 3rd string 3.Also Houston has a lot of young forwards on there roster.So we could probably pick one of them up.I think this is what Clippers are doing because once training camps are done you are going to see a lot of vets and rookies being cut/waived.Might be able to get a solid player.

James Jones would be great. This team still needs a swingman who can shoot the 3, and he can certainly do that.

But I think you're right. Teams like Houston are gonna have to make some tough decisions soon, and that helps the clippers.

                
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