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Post ID: 301246by clippermitch » Aug 22, 2012 - 07:49 PM PST
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Sign Darko and maybe trade DJ to Houston for a few of their young pieces?

But then again Rox already have Asik.

Darko has never even had a year good as Jordan's last year so we trade the better player for a guy who couldn't produce when he did get time? DJ is a far away from all star caliber but the guy did not have terrible year. If he continues to improve then he will gave a near or actually double double year.

One makes the vet minimum and the other makes $11m. We can use that $ to solidify the SG spot. I like DJ but his 5 points/7 rebounds/2 blocks is not worth that $.



                
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Post ID: 301248by CP3Best » Aug 22, 2012 - 08:09 PM PST
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We have enough guards! It'll be enough to get another C!

                
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Post ID: 301264by john4clips89 » Aug 22, 2012 - 11:38 PM PST
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Post ID: 301270by -GeoffClankinsDaddy- » Aug 23, 2012 - 12:32 AM PST
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I hope we get darko. Hollins and Turiaf....suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

Darko can score and defend which is good enough for a backup especially when your backing up a terrible center, so Darko is the best option out there and people complain smh. Get-r-done

bledsoe crawford hill odom darko

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Post ID: 301271by Gordon10 » Aug 23, 2012 - 12:35 AM PST
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In reference to his character, he may be a bit intense, but we need someone whose not afraid to get in your face. Someone to step up and protect BG. I know alot of people dont like what he said to the media after the serbian game but after watching it I gotta say, while i dont like the content I love the fire. If we pick him up I hope to see some of this intensity on the court.

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It's quite comical to see how overrated Darko is on here. He sucks. That's why Minnesota got rid of him. Terrible attitude and gives 50% on the floor. Had we not signed Hollins or Turiaf this move would make a little more sense but at this point we'd be overstocked with bad centers.

Quality > Quantity

I thought we wanted to see more of Thompkins? What about Odom? The improvement of Blake/DJ? And Turiaf is supposed to get some minutes too. Darko CANT guard Dwight and we have 6 big men to give fouls if D12 can't be stopped. I don't know why you guys are acting like our Forwards fouled out of every game last year.

What happens if Griffin gets injured? We have Odom and Thompkins.

What happens if DJ gets injured? We have Hollins and Turiaf.

Literally no need for Darko. This team is deep. The only position we're thin at is the 3 with Butler and Hill. If either gets hurt, I don't want to have wasted a roster spot on Darko.

If he's such a stud why hasn't another team given him a chance? Right, that's because he's a bust!

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Darko is a better player than Hollins or Turiaf. Simple as that. Even with both of those guys signed to back up the C, it's still our weakest position. As it stands now I think Lamar is the back up Center (and PF). Darko isn't amazing and he's not worth the high slot in the draft when he came out. But if he was a 2nd round pick, the guy would have a pretty solid reputation as a good defender with good size who can score a little. He's overshadowed to some degree because of the bust label.

He would assuredly beat out Turiaf/Hollins for the 10th man in the rotation. He's an upgrade we could buy for the vets minimum. That's almost always worth it.

Leslie, Trey, Turiaf, Hollins, Willie, + Darko would all be making 1.3mil or less. One of those 6 guys would be cut if a roster spot was needed for D-League reinforcements. Cheap solution.

                
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Post ID: 301275by Andrew818 » Aug 23, 2012 - 01:18 AM PST
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No one is saying he is a stud and I definitely don't think we should trade DJ.But we would be foolish not to sign him when he is a better player than Hollins,Turiaf,and Thompkins.Also he is a defensive minded player which is the Clippers biggest weakness.

If Blake or DJ were injured and we had to rely on Turiaf,Hollins, or Thompkins taking up those minutes we would be in a lot of trouble.As much as I like these guys they won't make as much a difference in games like Milicic would.I am not saying Milicic is a amazing player but he has shown some talent and if motivated could play some key minutes in games.And after being amnestied I think he will be motivated because according to his manager he wants to be in the NBA,that is the reason he turned down Real Madrid.If he wants to play in the NBA he has to show he deserves to be here.

The reason the Timberwovles let him go was for roster room and to clear off his 2 yr near $11 mill contract so they could make an offer to Batum.We have a chance to get him for the min now because of that.Not many if any players as skilled as Milicic willing to take the min.And you say we are deep but VDN said Odom probably will play at the 5,Odom has length but at the 5 will get tossed around.I rather have Darko,a 7 ft 275 lbs center play those minutes and have Odom or Crawford/Green play at the 3 if needed and depending on the match up.

All Hollins brings is dunking,Trey brings shooting,and Turiaf brings some defense and shot blocking.Milicic brings defense and size which we can definitely use and his offense has been improving.I will admit he doesn't have the best reputation but either did K-Mart,Reggie,or Young and all 3 played a big role for the Clippers last season.And at the end of the day we are talking about the min,what other player out there could we get for that?Morrison maybe but again we don't need scorers we need defense.Other than him is B.Simmions.I'd take Milicic over Simmions at this point for the min.As I said earlier,in my opinion,we would be FOOLISH not to sign him for the min if we have the opportunity too.

                
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Post ID: 301295by CP3Best » Aug 23, 2012 - 10:13 AM PST
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Defense isn't our worst suit anymore. Our bench is filled with players that can ball on the defensive side! EBled, Crawford, Hill, ROnny, Hollins, Odom, all those guys play really good defense!

                
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Post ID: 301303by mcmb2 » Aug 23, 2012 - 10:58 AM PST
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Good points.

Is Darko better than Hollins and Turiaf? Sure. But should we use our 15th roster spot on a 4th center which would leave the clippers with 7 PF/Cs? Im not into that. Darko isn't the missing piece to a championship IMO.

If Caron Butler or Grant Hill gets injured, we are stuck with 6 guards and 7 Power Forwards and Centers. If there's anything that this team needs, it's a 2/3. And from what I've heard, the clippers can't offer a minimum contract without surpassing the luxury threshold. It would be pretty stupid to become a repeat offender over Darko Millicic.

And I'm personally intrigued by the combination of Odom/Turiaf. They played very well together with the lakers and Im sure there's still chemistry.

                
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Post ID: 301305by xldicelx » Aug 23, 2012 - 11:04 AM PST
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I forgot they played together in the fLAkers... it will be interesting....

I am sure the clippers have something up their sleeves by trying to get Darko. I dont think it's a "we need him" point but there has to be something behind close doors that we are not aware of

                
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Post ID: 301308by PleaseSellDTS » Aug 23, 2012 - 11:10 AM PST
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Who us left out there as a 2/3 that would make more sense to sign? Is pietrus still available? If there is not a good option, then I would always default to signing a big. OTOH, there is something about Darko, besides the lack of skills development, that has caused multiple teams to chuck him. Bad locker room guy?

                
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Post ID: 301319by no1wammy » Aug 23, 2012 - 12:45 PM PST
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I think I'm starting to warm up to Darko Milicic. I've yet to watch some highlights of him, but if what I'm reading is true, then the Clippers may have solved 90% of their holes. But here's an issue: adding Milicic will give us a log jam at center. We already have Jordan, Turiaf and Hollins at the five. Odom and Griffin could be asked to play the five in case of injury.

Someone mentioned Adam Morrison. They really need one more small forward. Plus, the way I see it, Butler is a balanced player, Hill is more defense, and Morrison is pure offense. At this point, keeping Bobby Simmons is like cloning Caron Butler (no offense). In fact, it's really possible the Clippers could get BOTH Milicic and Morrison. But now: do they keep Travis Leslie and fill in the final roster spot, or waive him and put in both players?

                
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Post ID: 301339by Mistwell » Aug 23, 2012 - 02:45 PM PST
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Morrison doesn't want to be a third stringer IMO.

                
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Post ID: 301341by tense2 » Aug 23, 2012 - 03:08 PM PST
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Even though he hasn't proved otherwise, LOL.

                
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Post ID: 301342by xldicelx » Aug 23, 2012 - 03:10 PM PST
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tense2 wrote:
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Morrison doesn't want to be a third stringer IMO.

Even though he hasn't proved otherwise, LOL.

morrison on the clippers = Steve Novak (during his last year with us) Morrison would just sit until we need a game winning basket and wont make it because he's as cold as ice

                
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Post ID: 301361by Andrew818 » Aug 23, 2012 - 04:14 PM PST
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Clippers won't go over because if they do sign Milicic they would likely cut Leslie who is pretty injury prone.I like Leslie but he hasn't shown the same potential Thompkins has shown and there really isn't any minutes for him.

As far as if Caron or Hill get injured,what quality 3 could we get?I heard Pietrus won't take the min and Morrison doesn't play defense.Plus no one knows if he is even interested in taking the vet min.We would most likely just sign B.Simmions again.I rather get Milicic and have Odom and Crawford/Green play the 3 depending on the match up.VDN aready said Odom will play some 5.Odom is more effective at the 3 than the 5 in my opinion.

                
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Post ID: 301362by Andrew818 » Aug 23, 2012 - 04:16 PM PST
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Defense is still our biggest weakness actually,we got better with Hill but we lost Reggie and K-Mart which don't forget took a lot of DJ's minutes because his defense at times was lacking.Crawford doesn't plays good defense.Don't know what gave you the impression he does but he doesn't.And while Hollins and Turiaf make an effort to play defense,they still don't play defense as well as Milicic and don't have the size to guard some of the bigger centers like Milicic does.Blake needs to work on his defensive game and DJ's defense has disappeared at times.Just having a tough defender working with DJ and Blake can do a lot for them.

                
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Post ID: 301366by mcmb2 » Aug 23, 2012 - 04:53 PM PST
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@Andrew818

Green/Crawford/Odom CANNOT guard 3's.

Like I said, I wouldn't mind Darko had the team not already signed 2 mediocre centers just recently. But it's not impossible that Butler (32) and Hill (40) could get injured. Bobby Simmons (or any Free agent) isn't a great player but he's better suited to play the 3 than the guys you mentioned.

                
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Post ID: 301374by Andrew818 » Aug 23, 2012 - 05:33 PM PST
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Odom can guard 3's pretty well,probably better than Simmions actually.Problem is he doesn't have the speed to guard some 3's but either does Simmions.Odom however does brings the size and length that is needed to guard the bigger 3's.Guys like Durant,Beasley and Gay.At 6'6" Crawford is better suited to play the 3 than 6'1" Mo Williams who got minutes at the 3 last season.VDN loved going small with Bledsoe,CP3,and Mo last season.If he does that again this season,which he might,at least we have more size now.VDN made Nick Young(a natural 2)play as the back up 3 and also even rarely put K-Mart at the 3.VDN did all this while Simmions was available.So gives me a sense that VDN doesn't have much faith in Simmions being our back up or even 3rd string 3.

                
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I guess we'll have to disagree on this. Because I certainly don't think Odom or Crawford can defend small forwards.

                
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They can each defend certain small forwards so their defensive assignments, and in some ways their minutes, will depend upon the match ups... What small forward has to be guarded at a given time.

                
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Post ID: 301414by Andrew818 » Aug 23, 2012 - 08:43 PM PST
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Fair enough and I understand where your coming from.I just think there are certain guys who are good fits for certain teams and horrible fits for others.I really think that is the case with Darko.I think he will be a really good fit with the Clippers but certainly understand why others don't feel the same given his past.I am not even a fan of his really but I think the skill set he brings is exactly what the Clippers need at this point.If it doesn't happen it's fine but I hope it does and am not trying to force people to agree with me so my bad if I came off like I was.

                
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Post ID: 301423by CP3Best » Aug 23, 2012 - 09:55 PM PST
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We have hill and butler to guard 3s we won't need Crawford or Odom guarding 3s that much! Odom is pretty athletic and versatile, so if it would come down to it, Odom would be guarding 3s!

                
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Post Subject: DARKO MIX Post ID: 301519by xldicelx » Aug 24, 2012 - 05:06 PM PST
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Post Subject: RE: DARKO MIX Post ID: 301524by CP3Best » Aug 24, 2012 - 05:52 PM PST
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Man we should sign him, he has a nice post game!

                
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Post ID: 301528by Andrew818 » Aug 24, 2012 - 06:18 PM PST
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Problem is he doesn't always use it.He has the talent but he isn't consistent.I hope being amnestied will motivate him to play like this while all the time or at least attempt to.He could be a really good player if motivated.

I like his toughness on the court.Doesn't back down from anyone.I like this clip of him trying to punk Perkins.He would be a great enforcer for the Clippers. Link

                
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Post ID: 301530by Keatonsays » Aug 24, 2012 - 06:26 PM PST
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Andrew818 wrote:
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Man we should sign him, he has a nice post game!
Problem is he doesn't always use it.He has the talent but he isn't consistent.I hope being amnestied will motivate him to play like this while all the time or at least attempt to.He could be a really good player if motivated.

I like his toughness on the court.Doesn't back down from anyone.I like this clip of him trying to punk Perkins.He would be a great enforcer for the Clippers. Link

Thats what the f*** i'm talking about! That's EXACTLY what we need for this team. We have a roster full of the nicest most high character guys that the league has to offer, from Grant Hill to Ronnie Turiaf. We need somebody who's not afraid to put a man on his a** at any given time! Bring on Darko!!!

                
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Post ID: 301531by ClipperFaithful » Aug 24, 2012 - 06:36 PM PST
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I agree. Especially since reggie and kenyon are gone

                
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Post ID: 301532by CP3Best » Aug 24, 2012 - 06:40 PM PST
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Reggie and Kenyon didn't punk anyone like Smith when he tackled Griffin, or any other instance, Reggie just made them mad with his dirty work play!

                
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Post ID: 301533by CapsNClips » Aug 24, 2012 - 06:45 PM PST
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Darko is trying to Re-invent himself just like the Clippers, He's a perfect pick up.

                
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Post ID: 301536by BringMcadooBackado » Aug 24, 2012 - 07:00 PM PST
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Is this real? Since this has been posted on this board no US media seems to have picked it up.

Don't you think if the Clips were "close" to signing him, somebody would have written something else about it?

                
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Post ID: 301537by CP3Best » Aug 24, 2012 - 07:04 PM PST
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Yeah it's a shame, would have liked him on our roster, and we don't have any money to offer him, literally, not even the minimum! At least that's what the chart on "Spending Power Dwindling" said, anyone have insight on that?

                
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Post ID: 301538by CapsNClips » Aug 24, 2012 - 07:06 PM PST
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You're right, Darko should be on the front page of Yahoo News right ahead of "Cute Cat Licks Other Cute Cat"

But seriously did you hear about the turiaf signing before that happened? No, because the media doesn't care, they wan't to talk about Lance Armstrong and Skip Bayless.

                
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Post ID: 301541by CP3Best » Aug 24, 2012 - 07:11 PM PST
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Who's Lance Armstrong?

                
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Post ID: 301542by tense2 » Aug 24, 2012 - 07:12 PM PST
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Go discover who Lance Armstrong is and report back.

                
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Post ID: 301543by BringMcadooBackado » Aug 24, 2012 - 07:15 PM PST
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CapsNClips wrote:
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Is this real? Since this has been posted on this board no US media seems to have picked it up.

Don't you think if the Clips were "close" to signing him, somebody would have written something else about it?

You're right, Darko should be on the front page of Yahoo News right ahead of "Cute Cat Licks Other Cute Cat"

But seriously did you hear about the turiaf signing before that happened? No, because the media doesn't care, they wan't to talk about Lance Armstrong and Skip Bayless.

That was during the olympics. This is a dead news time. No real football yet, no baseball playoffs.

You're right in a sense. When the biggest news is that Skip Bayless said Derek Jeter "might" have used performance enhancing drugs, there ain't much else to say.

                
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Post ID: 301544by CP3Best » Aug 24, 2012 - 07:18 PM PST
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It is so boring right now, even Griffin is doing something boring!!

                
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Post ID: 301545by CapsNClips » Aug 24, 2012 - 07:24 PM PST
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I know, why did he decide on Mexico of all places. His contract is worth more than Mexico.

                
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Post ID: 301547by Jerediscool » Aug 24, 2012 - 07:27 PM PST
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^Because mexico is rad, thats why! Youve obviously never been past TJ

                
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Post ID: 301549by CP3Best » Aug 24, 2012 - 07:35 PM PST
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What's wrong with the Bahamas? All booked? So he had to got o a rundown in Mexico? Hope he doesn't get mugged, one of my friends had a wedding there and got mugged afterwards! Mugger opened dude's skull, scary!

                
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Post ID: 301550by CapsNClips » Aug 24, 2012 - 07:37 PM PST
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I'm just sayin i dont want Griffin to be sold to the Cartel

                
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Hahaha I'm hoping these are just jokes.You can't really believe that the entire country of Mexico is dangerous.That is like someone going to the bad areas of Detroit,Chicago,or somewhere and thinking the rest of America was just as dangerous.The country as a whole is not very dangerous and is actually a very popular place to vacation.

                
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Of course im kidding, New Mexico is even more Dangerous than Mexico, they have Heisenburg.

                
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Post ID: 301563by CP3Best » Aug 24, 2012 - 08:46 PM PST
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Don't think they would be able to capture him unless they kill him first, all them tiny people!

                
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Post ID: 301600by Grillinnap » Aug 25, 2012 - 05:56 AM PST
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When you see stuff like that happen during a first division soccer match just outside a big stadium, I'd say that country is full of ****ed up people.

                
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Post ID: 301612by Clip1989 » Aug 25, 2012 - 11:58 AM PST
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^ What about shootings in Colorado? or New York? This Summer alone.

                
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Post ID: 301619by Grillinnap » Aug 25, 2012 - 12:49 PM PST
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What are you trying to say? That those are comparable to the daily violence in Mexico?

                
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Post ID: 301622by Andrew818 » Aug 25, 2012 - 01:14 PM PST
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Don't want this to keep going off topic but what about the daily violence in America?Turn on the news,every day someone gets killed or injured in America.I can go on youtube and find millions of clips that make America look dangerous.

Point is there is crime and crazy people everywhere.You can't say the entire country is filled with bad people cause it just isn't true at all.My Grandparents was born there and I still have family there so I have been to Mexico several times and sure it can be dangerous in certain areas but I have been in much more dangerous areas in America.You just need to know where to travel.

                
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Post ID: 301628by CapsNClips » Aug 25, 2012 - 01:44 PM PST
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The Media want's us to be against illegal immigrants so they always talk about how dangerous it is there and how the people are ruthless, but nobody is trying to warn us about the Bernie Madoff's of the world who do far more damage to people's lives, Oh wait it's because those people own the Media sources.

                
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