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wcnbafan
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Maybe not a big deal in the long run but as someone who still wants to see the Clips really gain their own identity and build an arena of their own or move to Anaheim, I just wonder if this will give it a glimmer of hope. The Nets' move to Brooklyn is going to be great for the rivalry with the Knicks, the NBA, the Nets themselves and the borough. Seeing the arena decked out with nothing but black seats to match the Net color scheme is something that I've always thought about for the Clips. Imagine a building with....

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Andrew818
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Wouldn't mind seeing the Clippers getting there own Area because I love the Staples Center but it is the home of the Lakers.I would support a move to a new Arena but wouldn't want the Clippers to move to Anaheim.Probably wouldn't happen but if it did I could just imagine the Lakers fans saying how the Lakers kicked the Clippers out of Staples Center haha.

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I totally see Lakers fans saying how the Clippers got "kicked out" of the staples center. That's why I want us to SMASH this season, win a championship, and then move. If they pull that kicked out bullshit we can say, yeah they kicked us out because they were intimidated. I wouldn't want them to move to Anaheim. I'd love for the Clips to take over the convention center. Or build their own somewhere in downtown.

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Do you guys really care what laker fans say? Sure they might say "hahahah we kicked LA's 2nd team out of here! 16 rings!!! blah blah blah I love Kobe...."

But eventually people would move on. I'd go as far as saying I wouldn't mind them officially switching cities from LA to Anaheim. I completely understand why others would feel differently, but the reason I say so is because the clippers would finally have their own identity without having to deal with The "other" LA team BS.

Anaheim Clippers doesn't sound so bad IMO.

Either way, the clippers WILL sell tickets because they're one of the most exciting teams in the league whether they win or lose.

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If we did I would still want to retain the red and blue but don't think we're moving since we've built a practice facility here, and our unis say Los Angeles on them, I like the battle for Los Angeles- CLippers vs. Lakers! Don't think we're moving any time soon!

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^Can't move because the unis say Los Angeles on them....your too much kid. Razz

CP3Best
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We can start building something but the unis saw we stay for another 2-3 years in LA!

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One of my fears with this AEG sale is that the new owner could prohibit certain sports teams from renting the complex unless you are legally owned by AEG. Because the Clippers only play in an AEG field and are not owned by them like the Lakers, Kings or Galaxy are, the Clippers could be forced out of Staples Center and they would either have to re-rent a lousy sports arena or create a stadium of their own. Unless they find an arena in Los Angeles, the NBA may have no other choice but to contract the Clippers and shelve them, or have them relocate to Seattle and become the Seattle Supersonics.

The Clippers just became relevant only last year, but they picked a very bad time to do so. Now the Laker fans are going to be chanting that "Hey Hey Goodbye" song whenever the Battle Of L.A. is in progress, giving the 2012 Hall Of Fame Laker Gods a psychological edge unlike anything the NBA has ever seen before.

The Clippers are forced to win a championship this year. If they fail, not only they could lose Chris Paul, the franchise could die. And I fear for that. And I just got into the Clippers too.

I hope they win. They have to.

wcnbafan
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I understand your fears but my thread starter is in hopes that we could turn that negative into a huge positive. Building their own arena would finally give them the identity they need to get past the Lakers.

Golden State, Brooklyn & Seattle are all about to embark on a blueprint that the Clippers can follow and if done correctly, will make them twice as relevant as they are now.

Getting kicked out of Staples isn't a bad thing. At worst, they go to Anaheim. At best, they negotiate an out now. They have 2 years remaining on their lease. That gives them time to start the political process and get the ball rolling. In all probability, you do a year to year lease deal at Staples until the new building is ready.

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If we reach WCF and lose, CP3 will still stay, maybe even if we lose in the 2nd round and the FO hires an respectable coach, because there's plenty of them out there, but honestly where's he gonna go? Mavericks and Hawks might want to sign CP3 and D12, but mavericks are gonna have no money for anyone else than those 2 + Nowitsky, and I think CP3 would rather play with a budding superstar in Griffin, not retiree Nowitsky. Only option to form a big 3 is Atlanta, they could sign CP3 and D12, and trade Horford for missing positions! Like I said all depends on how well we do this season, which depends mostly on how good DJ is defensively, and possibly offensively!

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Clippers better not move out of the state of the art facility and go to that dump Honda center

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Screw Anaheim, the Clips need their own stadium near the beach...

  1. Closer to the practice facility.

  2. More glamorous for media coverage.

  3. Easier for me to get to games 8)

Andrew818
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I agree that is why I don't want them to move to Anaheim because it is too far of a trip for me lol .I would always cheer the Clippers on but would have to drive an hour just to make the home games and that is with no traffic.

wcnbafan
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Absolutely. The players mostly live in Marina Del Rey and the south bay. The practice facility is close to both. That's why Hollywood Park still makes the most sense. Massive parking lot for the fans and close to where the players live and train.

DTS was going to build there back in '97. I still don't know why he backed out but now is the time to jump on a naming rights deal that could potentially pay for half this thing. Throw in control of your own arena and he's got a good deal.

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Sort of lends credence to the move to the Forum rumor

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What Forum does it house enough space for all the ticket buying fans so DTS don't go cheap again?

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Wouldn't it be the ultimate punch in the nads if DTS bought Staples and the Fakers became his tenants

CP3Best
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Don't think he's rich enough! But that would be amazing!

no1wammy
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That could be the only way the Clippers stay in Los Angeles. Anything else puts the Clippers in the hands of David Stern and a possible vote for contraction or relocation to Seattle, Anaheim or another former NBA city in the United States.

And David Stern was hinting at an NBA team in Mexico. What about that...

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How bout he just moves to the OC?

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My dream is to have the Clips arena in west la somewhere. Dont know where, but that would be dope.

And it would be the Barclays center original design.

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wcnbafan brings up very valid points, in my opinion. The AEG deal intrigues me for a lot of reasons, one of which could be that whoever buys AEG could make life hell for Donald Sterling and the Clippers if there are disagreements. Certainly, the timing may or may not be on the Clippers' side, seeing as that Seattle is inching closer and closer to getting that new arena built, and the Clippers have two years left on their Staples Center lease. I've been following the Seattle arena situation, and although there's been progress on the part of Chris Hansen and the city, there's been opposition by the Mariners, the Port of Seattle, and one of the local newspapers. The new arena would be built a block or two away from Safeco Field and CenturyLink Field (the Seahawks' home field), essentially creating a sports & entertainment village (kinda like L.A. Live or the stadium/arena complex in South Philadelphia, where all of the major facilities are within a block of each other). Hansen has been buying up buildings in the surrounding neighborhood, which would not only include the arena site, but also parking lots and structures.

All that said, as long as Sterling still breathes, there's no way the Clippers would not only leave the Los Angeles market, but the Clippers wouldn't move across the county line...I firmly believe that.

The Forum was just purchased over the summer by Madison Square Garden, Inc., and I don't think there's a more-reviled owner in sports (besides Sterling) than James Dolan. I don't know of the relationship between Sterling and Dolan (if there's any at all), but should the Clips decide to go to Inglewood, it'll be interesting. One thing you say about Dolan, he does spend money...they're in a final phase of a three-year, $500 million renovation of the Garden arena, and from what I've seen via pictures and videos, it's gonna look like a brand new building.

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I could careless WHERE we play... It only matters HOW we play!

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This

Build an arena near playa vista/marina del Rey area which is still consider LA Area.

DTS has the money to get it done. I have a feeling if we win the Championship, DTS will put the Clips in there own arena.

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It will be such a disgrace if the text on the Clippers jersey says "Anaheim" instead of "Los Angeles." I really hope that if we move out of Staples, the new arena is still in LA, not that dump Honda Center.

And Mr.Hill, that is one hell of a bargain for a renovation project. $500? Wow! lol

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Google "Barclays center original design by Frank Gehry" and imagine that in West LA

Lob City would be the destination. Staples would look out of date

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what_up_clipnation83 wrote:
cleepers wrote:
Screw Anaheim, the Clips need their own stadium near the beach...

  1. Closer to the practice facility.

  2. More glamorous for media coverage.

  3. Easier for me to get to games 8)

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Build an arena near playa vista/marina del Rey area which is still consider LA Area.

DTS has the money to get it done. I have a feeling if we win the Championship, DTS will put the Clips in there own arena.

Then its easy, just win the championship Wink.

MrHill
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LOL...that's what I get for typing so fast, but you knew what I meant.

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Um,,I wouldn't think Stern could MAKE a team move for a reason that the arena is under new management,,I think that would be DTS' call

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Great post. LOL! It made me laugh... I don't like how Anaheim Clippers sound though... Sad

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DTS can buy the Staples piece,,then have ALL the banners taken down as they clash with the new seats he will install that will be red,white and blue.

wcnbafan
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what_up_clipnation83 wrote:
cleepers wrote:
Screw Anaheim, the Clips need their own stadium near the beach...

  1. Closer to the practice facility.

  2. More glamorous for media coverage.

  3. Easier for me to get to games 8)

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Build an arena near playa vista/marina del Rey area which is still consider LA Area.

DTS has the money to get it done. I have a feeling if we win the Championship, DTS will put the Clips in there own arena.

Yes. Sterling wanted to build at Hollywood Park in the late 90's and although the Forum was bought by MSG, they could still partner with Sterling on a new building. Sterling would own it but he could bring on MSG to manage the place. That way, all the concerts that don't go to the Forum could go to the Clips new arena.

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this

wcnbafan
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You know, there is still a massive hole at the corner of AOS and Constellation in Century City, diagonal from the Century Plaza Hotel. CC has the wealthiest and most powerful lawyers in the US. Selling suites would be no problem with all the business buildings in CC.

Not only that but the place has Sterling written all over it. Just east of all the condos that he owns on Wilshire but just west of Beverly Hills, where he owns even more property.

Unfortunately, I have to think that the land acquisition would be ridiculously too high.

That's why I still like Hollywood Park. Lots of parking and it's close to where the players live and practice.

wcnbafan
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Don't worry about that. The Mexico rumors died about a decade ago. It was the hot rumor when the NBA expanded to Canada in '95 but the economy in Mexico simply won't support the NBA.

I wouldn't worry about the Clips being in the hands of Stern. Adam Silver will take over from here and I don't think the league wants to own any more teams. Sure, it helped us get CP but all in all, it's a black mark on the league to own one of it's teams.

I want the Clips in LA county. Just with their own crib. Watch the Knicks and Nets on opening night at Barclays and you'll see what I mean. That rivalry is REAL now. The Clips will always be 2nd fiddle as long as they're at Staples. Time to take the next step up.

wcnbafan
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Good post. I follow the Seattle thing closely as well but think that the Mariners and the port will lose out in the end. The Mariners are full of it when they talk about traffic and what not. They simply don't want more competition. The MLS Sounders are kicking their behinds at the gate and 1 or 2 more teams in the area will really hurt the M's.

At the end of the day, I still think there is a deal in the works between Hansen and the Kings. The Maloofs are broke and if Hansen, Ballmer and Nordstrom make a large enough offer, the Maloofs will take it. That should make life easier for us Clipper fans.

I also agree that Sterling and Dolan would be wise to team up. Make an investment in the new Inglewood development similar to what Prokhorov is doing by buying a stake in Atlantic Yards where the Barclays Center is located. Sterling can promise Dolan not to take his Forum concerts but that he can serve as a backup building just in case of over booking and then even allow Dolan a percentage of the cut for the concerts that happen at the new building.

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You know who Sterling should team up with? Patrick Soon-Shiong. He is a true LA guy and I wish he was the Clippers' owner. Then again, he's very interested in buying AEG so he won't be on our side if he successfully completes the purchase.

CP3Best
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If we would move we would still hang on to the legendary name of the clippers red and blue right?

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Los Angeles Clippers of Anaheim

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BoomRizzle wrote:
Los Angeles Clippers of Anaheim

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^ Lol!

wcnbafan
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This is what I was thinking. Shiong already owns 10% of the Lakers and since AEG already owns 25%, that would give him 35% if he completes the purchase.

But it's a blessing in disguise if the Clips get a dope new arena decked out in Red, white and blue. Sterling can always get other minority investors. With the value of the team up to $400 million, he could sell 30% to one guy and 30% to another and still have control at 40%. Use the $240 million that he would get in a sale and advance that to the new arena. Tack on a $100 million naming rights deal and he practically pays no out of pocket money for an arena that he'll completely own and control.

No brainer to me.

wcnbafan
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Oh heck yeah! And Los Angeles as well as long as the dope new crib is in LA county or even the city limits. Hollywood Park is only a few blocks from the border of LA and Inglewood.

CP3Best
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Don't think we're moving far, Stern invested too much in the practice facility to just leave it!

wcnbafan
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Oh yeah, he's keeping that facility. Part of the reason I bring up Hollywood Park or elsewhere on the westside is because of the location of the practice facility.

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Are there any stadiums in Hollywood Park, or would we build one there?

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I like the sound of St. Louis Clippers Very Happy

wcnbafan
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They would have to build one there but as I outlined in the beginning of this thread, it actually makes sense for big market teams as opposed to paying rent to someone else. It may be expensive in the short run but over the long haul, it makes financial sense. If DTS wants to bring in investors or pass the team to his kids, it would definitely be in their best interest.

There was once a thread about renovating the Forum, which is basically Hollywood Park, but they are turning that into a concert hall. Because of that, I'm thinking the new arena would be a backup for concerts but would mostly be for the Clips, minor league hockey, the circus, kid shows, boxing, MMA, wrestling and maybe even conventions.

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Guys, listen to this: Donald Sterling's net worth is $1.9 billion, and he is 250 in Forbes's 400 Richest People Of America (as of this writing)!

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