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Post subject: Options to bring a point guard in? (Ford, Hinrich, Gordon)
 Posted: May 28, 2008 - 11:32 PM PST
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Toronto is not trading Calderon. Their going to move T.J. Ford. I read hoopsworld, which is great for getting every trade rumor, and I heard that T.J. Ford has played great when he is healthy. He has some sort of issue with spinal with his neck, but his contract is insured, meaning that if he goes down, it goes off the books.
Kirk Hinrich has a long contract, and may not be worth taking. If we have to free money up, I'd say we go after Ben Gordon.
Ben Gordon would want a contract in the 65 million range and he might get it. That would mean we would have to pay him about 12 million a year. That would also mean Maggette could not be signed.
Does anybody know a way that we could free up a slot for a contract with Ben Gordon. I want this guy on our team. |
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Post subject: RE: Options to bring a point guard in? (Ford, Hinrich, Gordo
Posted: May 29, 2008 - 12:20 AM PST
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| I think that Hinrich or TJ Ford would be a better fit for us. Seeing that if we happen to pick up Eric Gordon in the draft, and having Ben Gordon there as well I dont believe that would work out. They both play the same position and play pretty similar. Ben Gordon is good, but I dont believe he is 12 million dollar good. If that the case lets go after Baron Davis. If TJ comes to town, were going to definately be in the market for another shooter for him to kick it out to. All this sound like Maggette might be gone. |
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Post subject: RE: Options to bring a point guard in? (Ford, Hinrich, Gordo
Posted: May 29, 2008 - 03:36 PM PST
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Thought they would of kept Ford over Calderon. So would Ford be a good choice to pursue if we don't want to go for either Westbrook or D.J.?
I guess if we get an already established PG we most likely would pick Gordon in the draft. |
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Post subject: RE: Options to bring a point guard in? (Ford, Hinrich, Gordo
Posted: May 29, 2008 - 03:51 PM PST
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I think TJ Ford would be the best fit for the Clippers. That being said...the only way we would be able to get him is via trade. Our only guy on the block seems to be Maggette (whom I think we should keep). Ford for Maggette is def not a fair trade for the Clippers....I would trade Maggette (via sign and trade) and Tim Thomas for TJ Ford, Jason Kapono, and Anthony Parker (if we don't resign Q Ross).
PG: TJ Ford would be a great starter and Knight can come of the bench...I think that would be solid....and don't forget about Livingstong
SG: Kapono, Mobley - 2 Solid 3 Point Shooters, and Mobley can take it to the hole when healthy
SF: Thornton, Anthony Parker or Q Ross - Thornton, I think is ready to start. Parker or Ross are great defenders, but Parker can hit the 3
PF: Brand, Powell - Brand is Brand. Powell was solid in the 2nd half of the season.
C: Kaman, Paul Davis
I think this would be a solid team. My only concerns are the 3rd PG if Livingston is not ready to go.....just in case one of the others go down and another center. I like Kapono/Mobley at the SG, Thornton/A Parker or Q Ross at the SF, and Brand/Powell at the PF...Love Ford/Knight/Livingston (if healthy) at the PG...Just concerned who's behind Kaman |
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Post subject: RE: Options to bring a point guard in? (Ford, Hinrich, Gordo
Posted: May 29, 2008 - 04:09 PM PST
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| I dont know about all that. I think we could do much better than TJ Ford and Jason Kapono. TJ Ford, although pretty decent when healthy, is just never healthy. He's very small and fragile, and we already have a pretty fragile PG in what was supposed to be the future of the franchise, Shaun Livingston. I'd rather have Kirk Hinrich over TJ Ford, but I still think we could do better than Hinrich. The smartest thing would probably be to draft either Gordon or Westbrook at PG, or try to trade Maggette in a package for Arenas, Ben Gordon, or even Mike Miller. I love Maggette though, and want nothing more than to see him back in a Clipper Uni. |
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Post subject: RE: Options to bring a point guard in? (Ford, Hinrich, Gordo
Posted: May 29, 2008 - 04:17 PM PST
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I think getting both Ford and Kapono is better than just getting Mike Miller or just Kirk Hinrich...if we could get Arenas I would do it....and I think we need to stay way from the drafts picks.....we have the 7th pick....and I don't think we can get someone that will help us right away.
I personally would try to keep Maggette and trade the draft picks for a PG/3pt Shooter |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Options to bring a point guard in? (Ford, Hinrich, G
Posted: May 29, 2008 - 04:22 PM PST
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mashian3 wrote:
PG: TJ Ford would be a great starter and Knight can come of the bench...I think that would be solid....and don't forget about Livingston
SG: Kapono, Mobley - 2 Solid 3 Point Shooters, and Mobley can take it to the hole when healthy
SF: Thornton, Anthony Parker or Q Ross - Thornton, I think is ready to start. Parker or Ross are great defenders, but Parker can hit the 3
PF: Brand, Powell - Brand is Brand. Powell was solid in the 2nd half of the season.
C: Kaman, Paul Davis
Interesting line-up Mashian ... you should also add this year's draft picks. However the flaw in this line-up is that there is too little offensive punch from the second unit. The starting line-up is good but not Celtic-Big3 great, so you'd need an outstanding bench. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Options to bring a point guard in? (Ford, Hinric
Posted: May 29, 2008 - 04:27 PM PST
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I agree 100%...the only real scorer in the 2nd unit would be Mobley...I didn't add the draft pick (completely forgot)...
But the starting 5 I think is real good...Ford is top 5 fastest guy in the league...kapono deadly, and we know what thornton, brand, and kaman can do...
I wonder what management is gonna do... |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Options to bring a point guard in? (Ford, Hinric
Posted: May 29, 2008 - 04:37 PM PST
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Stay away from draft picks? I dont think thats a good idea. This draft is pretty deep this year, and thankfully it is deep in PG's, and thats exactly what the Clippers need.
Jason Kapono is as one dimensional as players get, think a younger Eric Paitkowski, and TJ Ford is not the answer. I look for the Clippers to make a good draft choice and if they trade Maggette, hopefully get equal value in return |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Options to bring a point guard in? (Ford, Hinric
Posted: May 29, 2008 - 08:27 PM PST
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| But who could we honestly trade straight up for Maggette? One for one? |
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Posted: May 29, 2008 - 09:12 PM PST
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TJ sounds good to me. Try avoid giving up a draft pick though. The Clippers need help at the PG position IMO...Go for it Front Office  |
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Posted: May 29, 2008 - 09:33 PM PST
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| I would rather keep Maggette than take T.J. Ford. He can't shoot and is too injury prone. I don't think that is equal value, and throwing in another player does not make that fair. We would be doing Toronto a favor so they could resign Calderon. They can't afford to sign him unless somebody takes Ford. If we wanted Kirk Hinrich, the Bulls would try to get our 7th pick for him. I'd say forget it. We would be doing them a favor too. I would try to trade the pick straight up for Ben Gordon to the Bulls. But, I'd rather find a way to trade with somebody to get cap space, promising them Minnesota's unprotected pick in 2011 and are next year's first round pick. |
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Posted: May 30, 2008 - 03:12 AM PST
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clippersblue wrote:
I would rather keep Maggette than take T.J. Ford. He can't shoot and is too injury prone. I don't think that is equal value, and throwing in another player does not make that fair. We would be doing Toronto a favor so they could resign Calderon. They can't afford to sign him unless somebody takes Ford. If we wanted Kirk Hinrich, the Bulls would try to get our 7th pick for him. I'd say forget it. We would be doing them a favor too. I would try to trade the pick straight up for Ben Gordon to the Bulls. But, I'd rather find a way to trade with somebody to get cap space, promising them Minnesota's unprotected pick in 2011 and are next year's first round pick.
Men. I totally agree. Trading for TJ would be a favor to the Raptors which need to trade him urgently. As you say TJ is often injured. He goes inside often and many times when he's in the air, as he's skinny phisichally, he crashes with big guys and falls to the floor having back and throat problems. He's too small to guard NBA PGs and he doesn't take right solutions on the offensive end. He's very quick but sometimes he just runs without any sense. I don't think he could satisfy Dunleavy with his no brain plays. I would prefer other options. For example, although I don't like Hinrich specially, I think he could fit better in Dunleavy's mind. |
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Posted: May 30, 2008 - 01:48 PM PST
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| Maggs for Hinrich would be ideal, but there is a strong possibility we get NOTHING for him. Unless he agrees to a S&T, I say we get the best possible deal, but are teams willing to give up a whole lot for a guy who is an unrestricted FA? Beggars can't be choosers, I guess. |
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Posted: May 30, 2008 - 09:15 PM PST
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illastrate wrote:
Maggs for Hinrich would be ideal, but there is a strong possibility we get NOTHING for him. Unless he agrees to a S&T, I say we get the best possible deal, but are teams willing to give up a whole lot for a guy who is an unrestricted FA? Beggars can't be choosers, I guess.
Good point, I just hope our GM isn't stupid with this decision. Because in my opinion, we ether do great next season due to smart choices or were back here sharing opinions on things we wish could happen to our team because of bad decisions....although they did get Al Thorton, he's arguably the 1st or 2nd best draft pick last season.ottalay!
There can only be one...
Hinrich/Gordon: To become a Clipper...
Its the best opportunity you'll ever get
But there can only be one... |
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Posted: May 30, 2008 - 09:56 PM PST
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We gettin these motha fuckas not you!
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