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Post subject: Westbrook vs. Gordon
 Posted: May 27, 2008 - 06:06 PM PST
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Clipper 6th Man
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| After going through numerous mock drafts, as of now it looks like we will be choosing between Russell Westbrook and Eric Gordon. Being a UCLA Alum, I have been watching Westbrook since he came to Westwood, and all I can say is that this guy is going to be a great nba player. He's a combo guard that can definitely play the point unlike most combo guards that attempt to. He's an excellent defender, probably the best perimeter defender in the draft. He can take it to the hole at anytime against almost anyone. What he does lack though is this outside shooting; however, that's definitely something he can work on. I love the guy and think he will fit well with into our system. However, I am not one hundred percent sold on him because I don't know much about Eric Gordon. I was wondering if anyone could give me the scouting report on him. Right now we desperately need a point guard which is why I believe Westbrook will fit better than Gordon (he did avg more assists at ucla than pg darren collison); however, we probably are going to need a solid shooting guard as well since it looks like corey won't be with us too long. Let me know what you guys think. |
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Post subject: RE: Westbrook vs. Gordon
Posted: May 27, 2008 - 06:51 PM PST
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| Thanks for the report on Westbrook. We should definitely consider drafting him for sure. As far as Gordon goes- he's supposed to be a great shooter with range well beyond the 3 point line. But his stats didn't show that. Also supposedly he is a very good at drawing fouls. The drawback is that he's a little short for a 2 guard at 6'4", but apparently his athleticism makes up for it. Let's see how both these guys perform in the workouts. |
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Post subject: RE: Westbrook vs. Gordon
Posted: May 27, 2008 - 09:52 PM PST
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Clipper All-Star
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| Yeah I would be willing to take Westbrook and then sign a SG who can make the outside shot on a consistent basis. I really like the pros vs. cons on Westbrook more than the pros vs. cons on Eric Gordon. Gordon shoots and shoots, but like all shooters - gets cold. He seemed to disappear in the later part of the season for Indiana. Sure i'd like a pure shooter, but if he's trying to make an impact in the NBA on just shooting, he better be Larry frickin' Bird. Ask Michael Redd how being the star shooter on a team with no other points of attack worked for him. Ask Ray Allen when he was with Seattle. We can get a good shooter in the 2nd round I believe. |
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Post subject: RE: Westbrook vs. Gordon
Posted: May 28, 2008 - 12:51 AM PST
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| ^^Yeah maybe a Shan Foster or Courtney Lee would be great. But I think we need another power guy for defense too. Maybe we can sign DeSagana Diop or Brian Skinner for cheap. |
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Post subject: RE: Westbrook vs. Gordon
Posted: May 28, 2008 - 06:01 AM PST
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| Yeah David, thats a big need too. Either is good with me. I wonder if coach just sticks with Paul Davis as Kaman's backup though. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Westbrook vs. Gordon
Posted: May 28, 2008 - 01:43 PM PST
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david wrote:
^^Yeah maybe a Shan Foster or Courtney Lee would be great. But I think we need another power guy for defense too. Maybe we can sign DeSagana Diop or Brian Skinner for cheap.
Skinner is not a bad choice. I bet we could get him on the cheap. |
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Posted: May 28, 2008 - 02:08 PM PST
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| I have to admit that as far as filling our needs my first instinct is to go young, to do it as much as possible via our draft. I really like the idea of building a team through smart picks, and besides, hasn't it been kind of a hallmark of the best teams to do it that way whenever possible? The big advantages are that you bring the guy up in the system, and you get the advantage of the cheap first three years. And yeah, you have to be willing to come up with bigger bucks after that, but you at least have the possibility of some sort of developed loyalty, not exactly a rampant idea nowadays, but it does come into play sometimes. With that in mind I'm with clipperfan909... point is our MOST glaring weakness and I really like Westbrook. All along I've posted for Bayless or Westbrook as our pick, I've liked Bayless too, but he'll probably be taken in that 3rd - 5th range, so I'm very comfortable with Westbrook instead. cf909 ably listed his talents, and he's only 19! Tons of potential! Gordon is tempting also, we DO need a shooting guard too, just not quite as desperately. I don't know though, Gordon is just a tad undersized for a NBA two. He makes up for his lack of height with a powerful body, which helps him get shots off in the lane, and probably means he won't be easy to back down defensively... but he's not going to block many shots or be a defensive stopper, at least that's been his MO so far. Also he had that disconcerting last few weeks to his season where he really struggled. He combined bad shot selection with some pretty poor results, the question being just how much did the coaching turmoil at Indiana affect him during that negative spell? Don't get me wrong, Gordon is a very talented guy and will be an offensive force in the NBA... right now though I just like Westbrook as a better fit for us. And since I believe in building through the draft, I think he's the pick. Will that work for EB? Geez I hope so. If Brand sees us bring in young players as talented as Thornton and Westbrook to complement his experience and CK's, you'd hope he'd want to be a part of what that could mean. I still like Courtney Lee too, let's not forget what could be an important second round draft pick. And of course there's still Corey to figure out, and who we might potentially get for him if he decides to leave. But I digress... the topic was Westbrook vs Gordon. I vote Westbrook. |
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Posted: May 28, 2008 - 03:00 PM PST
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| Wetsbrook and Gordon are both solid choices. Ideally, O.J. Mayo would be the best fit for this Clipper team. But there is no way he is going to slip all the way to #7. I think moving up to the #4 spot would be great, maybe a sign and trade with Maggette and one other player to move up to the Sonics #4 pick to take Mayo. If not, I dont think either Gordon or Westbrook would be bad options. They both have strengths and weaknesses, and its too hard to tell right now who is going to be a better NBA player. But there is little doubt Mayo will be a star. I dont know, I just love this team want them to win already and make all those stupid Laker fans in their ugly purple jerseys shut their mouths already |
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Posted: May 28, 2008 - 03:39 PM PST
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| I wouldnt trade up to get Mayo. He is a risky player (talented, yes-but still quite risky) and it's very unwise to trade up for those types of players. If he falls to you and you feel he's talented enough, then by all means, go for it. There are no certainties in drafting, but some guys are just much safer-bets than others. I wouldnt trade UP for a guy with character issues. That's my stand. |
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Posted: May 28, 2008 - 04:42 PM PST
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| well i dont know about you, but im ready to win now. O.J. could help right away, and I think he's going to have a huge rookie year. He's ready now and he's going to be a very talented NBA level scorer. Gordon and Westbrook are both going to be good, but it may take a little bit. Westbrook needs some time and Gordon is undersized and will have to adapt to the NBA game. Mayo can come in right away and help take the scoring load off EB, which would then also relieve some of the pressure from Thornton to try and do too much. You dont think the trio of Mayo, Thornton and Brand could be pretty formidable? Lets win now. We tasted the playoffs a few years ago and I want more. No time for rebuilding. Lets do this |
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Posted: May 28, 2008 - 06:01 PM PST
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| IVE BEEN WATCHING BOTH PLAYERS ON UTUBE AND I THINK THEY ARE BOTH GOOD, BUT IMMA GO WIT WESTBROOK.. |
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Posted: May 28, 2008 - 07:26 PM PST
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| Good analysis there OneNationUnderclip. And welcome to CTB Ray89! I'm sure that the Clippers will have those 3 guys come in and work out for them. What would be great is if they'll come in together for one workout somewhere so it's easier to tell who's a better fit. |
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Posted: May 28, 2008 - 09:49 PM PST
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| I say we still the 1-6 draft picks I know the safe they are kept in(joke). hmm I think other teams are considering Mayo, not to mention I've seen his talent.nice. we'll have to see what happens. |
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Posted: May 28, 2008 - 10:05 PM PST
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| Mayo would be great, but honestly, I will be happy and optimistic if we get any of those three guys, Mayo, Gordon, or Westbrook. Theyre all talented and will all look good in Clipper Red |
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Posted: May 28, 2008 - 10:24 PM PST
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| As a UCLA I love westbrooks game, he had potential to run the point and with his work ethic, his jump could come around. However, Gordon's jumper is already NBA ready. Yes he is short, but he is also quite powerful. A stronger version of Ben Gordon in Chicago, and his jumper is more consistent. His numbers may have been down a little in his freshman/only year in Indiana, but that is because of injuries, and the coaching situation. I vote Gordon!!! (Evan though I wouldnt frown on Westbrook). |
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Posted: May 30, 2008 - 09:29 PM PST
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balla wrote:
As a UCLA I love westbrooks game, he had potential to run the point and with his work ethic, his jump could come around. However, Gordon's jumper is already NBA ready. Yes he is short, but he is also quite powerful. A stronger version of Ben Gordon in Chicago, and his jumper is more consistent. His numbers may have been down a little in his freshman/only year in Indiana, but that is because of injuries, and the coaching situation. I vote Gordon!!! (Evan though I wouldnt frown on Westbrook).
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Posted: May 30, 2008 - 09:54 PM PST
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| Kobe will smash on all them jokas |
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