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Post subject: Brilliant idea of what the Clipps: trade for cap space and
 Posted: May 24, 2008 - 04:09 PM PST
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What the Clippers should do is trade for cap space with Memphis. We should give up Mobley, Thomas, Livingston (We pick up his rights for 5 million) for our 7 pick in this draft, and a next year first round pick or our 2011 unprotected pick from Minesota. They then send us Mike Miller. Why Memphis would do this. Mobley and Thomas have 2 years on their contracts. Not next year, but the year after, they would become valuable pieces for Memphis as trade bait for a team that wants to clear cap space in 2009-2010 with all the free agents that will be there. Also, since they are in the rebuilding mode, they probably will not go after any free agents and I don't know any free agents that would want to go their. Plus, Mobley and Thomas are good players and Livingston. I wouldn't mind keeping them all. Then Memphis would have all those first round picks from the Lakers, and ours, plus their own, plus this years draft.
Why would I do this. The first reason, this would free up about 9 million dollars in cap space, 18 million if we let Maggette go, and would bring in a first class shooter. We could even work a sign and trade with Toronto so they get Maggette and they don't get screwed. Then, we could out bid teams for players like Ben Gordon. Then I would sign Q ross, and here would be our line up.
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Ben Gordon
Miller
Kaman
Brand
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Thorton
Tell Dunleavy to give me a call to hire me in his financil department.
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Post subject: RE: Brilliant idea of what the Clipps: trade for cap space a
Posted: May 24, 2008 - 06:53 PM PST
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| Man, I'm sorry but a starting lineup with Ross makes me cry. I still can't see what you see in this player. A good defender but nothing else. |
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Post subject: RE: Brilliant idea of what the Clipps: trade for cap space a
Posted: May 24, 2008 - 07:53 PM PST
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| Yeah I'm not so sure about Q starting either unless he's made great strides in improving his offense over the summer. But I wouldn't count him out as solid contributor for the team, however. |
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Post subject: Q Ross would not get the minutes gordon would
Posted: May 24, 2008 - 09:33 PM PST
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| I never put Q Ross in the starting line up. Re-check the post. I think you guys have seen too much of Dunlevy starting him. My real question do you like this line up and do you think it would be effective and the other teams would go for it. |
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Post subject: Reply
Posted: May 24, 2008 - 09:33 PM PST
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| Do you think Ben Gordon would be the guy you would go after if you could create cap space. I just thought of a way to create cap space. Is there anybody else you would go for. Please don't tell me Gilbert. That guy had his chance to be a Clipper and if he would have taken it we would have a championship. Now he is older, injured and damaged goods. I like Maggette, but I don't think it is working out with him. We need a quick guard out there, a small one. We will not be able to get Monta Ellis. He will resign with Golden State. |
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Posted: May 25, 2008 - 12:35 AM PST
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| There is no way we're getting Calderon, B. Gordon, and Miller in one offseason. Besides, there's no way Thornton should be on the bench. He needs to start |
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Posted: May 25, 2008 - 01:18 AM PST
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| If we could get someone great in return, I would not at all be against trading Mobley, Thomas, and Livingston. It might actually be beneficial to the team, but it is impossible to Calderon, Gordon, and Miller with that trade! Unless we're in Heaven! |
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Posted: May 25, 2008 - 03:23 AM PST
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| Livingston isn't marketable. Thomas is I suppose but I don't know why. Cat is the only player who would bring a positive. He's a veteran and will be good for young players, he can make a difference, he doesn't screw up and as above his contract has short shelf life. As much as I hate to say it, Darwin tapped me on the shoulder. We shouldn't keep Q. His defense is offset by his lack of offense. If he could shoot ,the season could have been different. He would have opened up the paint for Chris and Thomas but as it was, they didn't even guard him. Big Al starts. He's gonna be one of the premeire SF's in the league |
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Post subject: Re: Q Ross would not get the minutes gordon would
Posted: May 25, 2008 - 03:23 AM PST
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clippersblue wrote:
I never put Q Ross in the starting line up. Re-check the post. I think you guys have seen too much of Dunlevy starting him. My real question do you like this line up and do you think it would be effective and the other teams would go for it.
Er- you DID have him in there- you edited your post and took him out. That's funny how you think you can put it over on us like that 
But yeah like ilastrate & laclippers said there's no way we could get all those players. |
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Post subject: This deal can happen?
Posted: May 25, 2008 - 11:56 AM PST
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Why wouldn't Memphis trade Miller for the 7th pick, and Minnesotas 2011 pick unprotected. and the contracts of Mobley, Thomas, Livingston. Livingston contract would expire in one year. Thomas, and Mobley have two years and are servicable veterans. They will be able to get two high first round picks, not to mention, their own this year, their own next year, and all the Lakers picks. Their in rebuilding mode, and this would help them rebuild. Memphis doesn't even want Miller anymore because they are rebuilding.
Then we could have the cap space to sign a player like Ben Gordon, we could give him 65 to 70 million. The Bulls could not out bid that unless Denver gives up Carmelo and their willing to give up Deng and Gordon each who would want way more money to Denver's payroll and could deny the deal. It might be a far stretch to say we could get Calderon too, but we could work a sign and trade with Maggette depending on where he wants to go to bring in a point guard. |
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Post subject: Re: Q Ross would not get the minutes gordon would
Posted: May 25, 2008 - 02:43 PM PST
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david wrote:
clippersblue wrote:
I never put Q Ross in the starting line up. Re-check the post. I think you guys have seen too much of Dunlevy starting him. My real question do you like this line up and do you think it would be effective and the other teams would go for it.
Er- you DID have him in there- you edited your post and took him out. That's funny how you think you can put it over on us like that
But yeah like ilastrate & laclippers said there's no way we could get all those players.
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Post subject: Re: This deal can happen?
Posted: May 25, 2008 - 06:14 PM PST
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clippersblue wrote:
Why wouldn't Memphis trade Miller for the 7th pick, and Minnesotas 2011 pick unprotected. and the contracts of Mobley, Thomas, Livingston.
Why wouldn't they? Simple: Miller's contract expires the same time as Mobley and Thomas. They would be taking on more salaries and getting relief no earlier than their current situation. Plus to make the deal work $-wise, they'd have to give up something else, and all they'd have left is the young talent from which they are trying to rebuild! |
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Post subject: RE: Re: This deal can happen?
Posted: May 26, 2008 - 02:13 AM PST
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| everything you just said makes sense to me. miller is on the top of my list of players i would want on the clips. that guy has a beautiful shot. |
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Posted: May 26, 2008 - 03:52 AM PST
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| Memphis would trade Miller for Al but that's it. |
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Post subject: Memphis would love to do this?
Posted: May 26, 2008 - 11:16 AM PST
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I wouldn't even do this unless we have a deal on the table to bring Ben Gordon in. Your telling me, they wouldn't sacrifice Miller for a 7 pick, and Minnesota's pick in 2011 which should be a good one. Yes, they would take on Mobley, Livingston, and Thomas's contracts, but Livingston's would be done in 1 year. Mobley and Thomas's contracts would be marketable in the second year because they will be expiring. I think we are giving away too much. The only reason I would do this is to bring in a scorer like Ben Gordon so we can win now. Remember, he took the Bulls to the playoffs his first year in the league. We should have picked him instead of Livingston but we stupidly traded the pick, another brilliant move by management. We need to win right now!
Another idea would be if we don't do this trade, to deal our 7th pick and Mobley for Miller. Let Livingston walk or sign him for 1,000,000. He hasn't proved anything and he owes a year. Let Maggette walk or force the other team to take a contracts of Thomas to sign Maggette, and then we could use the money to sign another player.
Livingston (in this line up we a point guard to dribble the ball down the court and that's all)
Ben Gordon (Q for D off bench)
Thorton (Miller)
Kaman
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