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This thread is mostly about Bledsoe but I added the other 2 just to see what you guys thought.

Will Eric Bledsoe be a permanent 6th man if re-signed? Start next to Chris Paul? Traded?

Will Travis Leslie and Trey Thompkins ever see the court in any important minutes for the clippers?

I ask these questions mostly because after seeing what Bledsoe did last night and in the playoffs last year. He deserves big minutes.

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Dude can play SG... look at his # last night.... 25pt 8rb! 6ast.... 5st! Can't say his D is 2weak 2play sg... he might be small but he's supa strong and fast.... him and Jcross are goin 2 kill it off the bench but they bolth need the mins 2b productive

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Bledsoe is definitely going to get resigned to the Clips. He's way to good to let him slip through our fingers. He'll probably be playing off of the bench coming in after CP3 but once Paul retires with us I can see Bledsoe taking over the PG position. Leslie and Thompkins are going to be used as trade pieces, I can't really see them getting any minutes this season.

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Traded with who? For who? If we keep bled and he has a breakout year at the point then we need cheap talent.

If Trey and Leslie get no minutes then they have no value, which means they would have to be in a package deal. Who would you be willing to part with that won't bring backlash against the team?

To me this sounds a lot like last year statements and replace the names with DJ and Bledsoe, so maybe we should be patient.

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I hope Bledsoe doesn't get traded... But I hope he gets the money he's worth.

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I'm scared that he might leave us. This dude is too good to be a backup for the rest of his career.

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FreaKeyy wrote:
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Bledsoe is definitely going to get resigned to the Clips. He's way to good to let him slip through our fingers. He'll probably be playing off of the bench coming in after CP3 but once Paul retires with us I can see Bledsoe taking over the PG position. Leslie and Thompkins are going to be used as trade pieces, I can't really see them getting any minutes this season.
I'm scared that he might leave us. This dude is too good to be a backup for the rest of his career.

What will happen more than likely is that we convince him to sign and trade. We will package EBled, Trey and Travis (or a pick?) for a sg that is great/elite and clear billups off of the payroll. It is the only logical thing for both parties. Bledsoe can't be a bench player his whole career, and we can't keep recycling old washed up player for our starting sg.

Or we could re-sign EBled to start, which might not be a bad idea....

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Start for what position? Sg? Yeah he's not really the PG type for me.

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yea the sg, he plays more like a 2 anyway. I guess his only "downfall" would be his height. but he plays like he is 6'5 anyway, so I don't need any additional selling of EBled for me to believe that he could be elite as a 2

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if billups retires or leaves us next season, bled steps in at 2. that's what i want to happen.

ClipSince7thGrade
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Actually you guys are right, he can't be starting off the bench for his whole career. I can really see him starting in the SG position for us but I can't see him leaving this team. I know a contract will be offered to him some time after Chris Paul's is offered.

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Also I got some info from someone in the Laker administration and they told me that D12 is going to be back opening night, key word being IS. The Lakers have said that they want to get him on the court opening night but the way it was told to me was that there was no doubt he was going to be suited up and starting.

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The Clippers need to keep Bled at all cost. This guy is special and might be that 3rd option we need to get that ring. The Clippers should use him like the Thunder use Harden. Big minutes off the bench. Eric Bledsoe is one of those small guys that knows how to play big. I can see him giving Kobe fits while Paul is busy with nash.

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Bledsoe is going to make Kobe look stupid. There's no way Kobe can stick Bledsoe.

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I think Bledsoe might sign to another team and start.I hope he stays with us but he has always came off the bench.In college he came off the bench for John Wall and now he is coming off the bench for Paul.Some guys embrace being 6th man but others rather start,even if it means going to a team which isn't a contender.I hope Bledsoe doesn't mind playing behind CP3 but if he does I could see him leaving.I like the idea of him at the 2 but he is just way to undersized.Guys like Dwade,Paul George,Joe Johnson,Tyreke Evans,etc will be too big and strong for him to guard.So far he doesn't seem to mind coming off the bench but with how good he is getting and with money getting thrown at him he might really consider leaving.

Leslie and Thompkins will get some playing time this year but I expect next year will be their year.They are still young and have a lot of potential.I think if the Clippers would have brought in some young guys then I would think we might cut them.But they brought in a bunch of vets on year contracts which tells me that Trey and Travis still have a future on this team.

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Well he is restricted so pretty much he is ours if we choose.

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Didn't Bledsoe start at the SG position next to Wall?

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Your right he did play mostly at the 2,just looked it up.

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I see ebled leaving us for more money which he can get else where and finally start which he will never here. We should enjoy him for the next 2 seasons

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Bledsoe's one of those few small guards that can hang with the big boys

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I think we should try starting him at SG or having him come off the bench as a 6th man (20-30mpg).

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We will have the space to sign him when his new contract starts in 2014/15 with Butler's $ off the books and Crawford's partially guarantee contract....plus we have his bird rights so the amount wouldn't matter anyhow.

see player salaries.

http://storytellerscontracts.com/

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first of all i think ebled is great. he has a nice game (still out of control) and is making good progress, but he has to keep those TOs down. He's not going to make Kobe look stupid, slow perhaps, but not slow. His IQ is no where near Kobe's. I want him to play sg, but I can't say I'm too happy with his shooting just yet. He has proven that he can score, but i just don't see the confidence in his shot. I saw a little in playoffs last year especially against spurs, and i hope to see more of it. He has to be a consistent 3pt and midrange shooter to be a start SG. It doesn't matter how big he plays, unfortunately he's still a little undersized. If yall thoght EG was undersized EB is worse.

again not knockin on the guy. just being real.

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He'll get a lot of offers for sure. IMO, he's got more potential than John Wall. His greatest weakness is his poor decision making. He have more than enough skills to be in the NBA elite class. Like a young Baron Davis.

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Wasn't there changes made to the CBA regarding "extend and trades". I say the Clippers offer Bledsoe a contract before he becomes a RFA and if he doesn't accept than they trade him before his contract expires. I don't see them waiting around for EB to test free agency and come back with a huge offer sheet like DeAndre. Teams continue to hand out large contracts and it doesn't make sense to overpay for a backup PG. Nothing against EB (love his game), but CP3 is going to be taking the bulk of the minutes at PG for a long time (I hope).

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Bledsoe should be the back up pg. But also play big minutes, so if some of those minutes are at 2. He should not be the starting pg.

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#1: What does that (^) have to do with the price of tea in China?

#2: I love Bled as much as anyone, but 2 elite PG's is one more than necessary.

I f***** love it!

FO: "Well Chris, you're obviously the the best guard in the league... you can either (1) sign with us and win a championship, (2) take a $25,000,000 pay cut and give us a boatload of cap space or (3) take the money and f*ck off somewhere that'll net us a top-5 player."

Whatever happens, it's a bright morning in Clipper nation. I don't think CP3's going anywhere, but we might eventually have to trade our little gem to win it all.

Sad, but true.

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Wasn't this subject closed long time ago, thought when the team played some games chats would be more fun! Sad Sad Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_32 Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_32 Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_32

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He'll probably get traded. But no worries, we should get something really good for him.

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Its a pretty interesting development, albeit a positive one. I am one of those rare birds that still believes we should not have traded for CP3. I love him but think of Eric Gordon, Eric Bledsoe, Blake Griffin, Deandre Jordan, and the minny pick used on a quality small forward. We would have had a great starting five that would have been more advantageous due to the new CBA. Now that we are in the top 10 in payroll (at least I'm pretty sure we are) the luxury tax is gonna hit us pretty hard. Anyone know what these numbers will be once the new punative tax kicks in?

Kind of bitter sweet I guess. I just wish the front office had this mentality a long time ago before this new CBA. Now it seems better to do the OKC thing and build from within because dratf picks come cheaper than expensive and unloyal free agents.

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Bledsoe is an awesome player with huge upside, I think him and Westbrook are cut from the same mold. With that said I would love to him and CP3 start together. The two of them are extremely compatible offensively and defensively. Bledsoe is on the shorter side but is extremely strong, fast and athletic which allows him to cover the height and guard bigger players.

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pageC4 wrote:
cleepers wrote:

Its a pretty interesting development, albeit a positive one. I am one of those rare birds that still believes we should not have traded for CP3. I love him but think of Eric Gordon, Eric Bledsoe, Blake Griffin, Deandre Jordan, and the minny pick used on a quality small forward. We would have had a great starting five that would have been more advantageous due to the new CBA. Now that we are in the top 10 in payroll (at least I'm pretty sure we are) the luxury tax is gonna hit us pretty hard. Anyone know what these numbers will be once the new punative tax kicks in?

Kind of bitter sweet I guess. I just wish the front office had this mentality a long time ago before this new CBA. Now it seems better to do the OKC thing and build from within because dratf picks come cheaper than expensive and unloyal free agents.

You want to pay an injury prone SG the max instead of CP3? Eric Gordon can't even stay on the court and when he is healthy he doesn't even have half the impact CP3 has. Seriously how many games has he missed already in his career? I consider CP3 a bit injury prone but nowhere near as injury prone as Eric Gordon.

True franchise players are very rare. There are only a handful in the league and you think it was a bad idea to trade some expendable pieces, Eric Gordon, and a pick(which would be Maurice Harkless if you pick an SF lol ) . Sorry but maybe if Eric Gordon played at an elite level last year but he was out pretty much the entire season and who knows how many games he will miss the upcoming season. At this point with some foresight the Clippers really got the better in the trade by a huge margin.

That core would make the Clippers a middle of the pack team imo with one undeserved max contract. I much rather have Harden than Eric Gordon at this point. At this point Bledsoe can either start at SG, be the 6th man or get traded for a good quality SG or SF. Either one would be fine.

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There's no reason Ebled shouldn't be able to start at the 2 for us. Despite his size he holds great strength, making it hard for larger opponents to back him down. In addition, his tenacious on ball defense is hard for any player to deal with, regardless of height.

Though he's only 6'2 Avery Bradley has seen great results as the starting 2 guard for the Celtics, enough so, that Doc Rivers was willing to relegate Ray Allen as the 6th man despite Allen not being happy with it. Plus we've seen great results when we have both Paul and Bledsoe filling the backcourt together, if EBled can learn to control himself a little better, which i'm sure he'd be able to do if he got regular minutes, he's make a great starting 2 guard for us. Sure he might have a hard time with somebody like Kobe, but then again, who doesnt have a hard time guarding Kobe?

I don't see us being able to replace the kind of tenacity and energy that Bledsoe brings to the squad very easily, so I think it would be in our best interest to do everything in our power to retain him. There's not limit to his potential and no questioning his work ethic, plus i think CP3 prefers playing with a 2 pg backcourt. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to find a way to make this work.

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Why's everyone bringing up Bradley, he sucks, 7.6 ppg, 5.6 in the PO! That's not such a good example!

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When you have an injury prone pg who you invest big money into, you want to also invest in a quality backup. Getting insurance is a wise mans choice, especially when youve seen a reason to have it before. Bledsoe is good enough to start, but so in Manu, so is Harden, so is crawford, etc.. Doesnt mean they dont produce. Bledsoe will get the money, and get the minutes. I will be very disappointed if we trade him, especially if cp3 goes down and we have a rookie or some other scrub taking the minutes at pg. Just think of him as an insurance policy that we still reap benefits from before injury. We have to keep him

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look at his specific game stats and you will see how he has potential and watch his game. Bradley is a very good player.

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CP3 isn't that injury prone! We're not trading anybody! Now I get that it was just the 1st preseason game and all, and maybe there were butterflies, but is Griffin really gonna shoot that bad from the line and the mid range?Jordan didn't make any free throws!

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Bradley stays in your face the whole game and is one of the better perimeter defensive players in the league.He defiantly doesn't suck,once his scoring comes along,he is going to be a problem for a lot of teams.

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Great post. Last year CP3 was out for a few games. He's not exactly 100% coming into this season, so we would be fools to not lock up Bledsoe.

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If Bledsoe leaves, i hope he explodes and becomes a star. Bledsoe is a special player.

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If you want to go by stats, EBled averaged 3.3ppg last season so what does that say about him?

Bradley is a very good defense minded player with a ton of potential. Plus he was good enough to get the starting job away from Ray Allen so he can't suck that bad. You can't judge a players worth purely based on stats. There are a ton of different circumstances that have to go into account when evaluating player worth.

I'd say Bradley is Eric Blesoe's Rival, similar to how Javale McGee is DJ's and Deron Williams is Chris Pauls. They both have a similar style of play and were taken one after the other in the same draft (Bledsoe 18th Bradley 19th). Plus both of their names start with B's so yeaa lol

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Hell, no. If he leaves I want him to become Shaun Livingston version 2 lol.

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Too bad Thompkins is injured. I still believe he can be a good backup for Griffin. Let's see if Leslie get a chance, he wasn't bad in the team scrimmage.

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2012-13 2013-14 2014-15

Bledsoe $1,707,720 $2,626,473 $3,726,965

RFA qualifying offer

Probably will get $10 mil +

Hill $1,957,000 $2,045,065

Billups $3mil gone

Butler $8mil $8 mil

THESE ARE SKEWED (sp) STATS !!!!!!!!!!! In PO games where he played 23 or more minutes Games with few minutes aren't listed

3reb 1 Assist 2 Turn over 17 pts

2reb 2 Assist 4 Turn over 4 pts

2reb 4 Assist 2 turn over 23 pts

4 reb 6 Assists 1 turn over 14 pts

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Gospel according to Too Hip

I think there is a gentleman's Agreement (read CP3) that Chauncey will start. We could have gotten Ray Allen if Chauncey were not with us but neither would come off the bench for the other. Ray will come off the bench for DWade

We have Bledsoe cheap for two years and Chauncey is gone.. If he re - signs he MAY come off the bench and EBled start

Let's assume EBled can start at SG which is NOT out of the question. Stranger things have happened--his qualifying offer as a RFA is $3,726,695. Most people on this post think he'll be a monster by 2013-14. He'll get $10 mil minimum probable $12

If he can't play SG he's excellent trade bait. He will start somewhere.

Forgot LO is possibly gone next year

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Mini-Lebron will make a nice 6th man this season sort of like MoWill but better.

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I can envision Bledsoe in a Jason Terry or James Harden like role off the bench, or even as a starting 2. Bottom line, you don't just let a guy with his athleticism, talent, and work ethic go.

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Unfortunately, outside of 4-5 core players/ team, NBA rosters are built year by year now because of the CBA. Lets focus on this year. Our two stars looked worn out and were certainly banged up during the Spurs series last year. We have to avoid that same scenario this year. How do we do it? EB and Odom. EB has developed to the point where he can carry big minutes off the bench. Most second units will get torched by him on both ends of the court. Same for Odom, Blake gets some good breaks, and there arent many second unit big men that can hang with even a moderatle motivated Odom. We have a HUGE advantage over most teams with our second unit this year and every minute they play allows rest for our stars.

Next year, who knows? Assuming Chris re-signs, I can see another team making a big offer to EB, knowing that the Clippers will match, just to run the price up. Odom stays if both sides think it worked out well this year, probably for simialr money.

Bottom line, as long as the Clipps keep building a winning culture, it becomes a destination for vets with something still in the tank, like this year did. And we can fill out the rest of the roster, year to year, like the contenders do.

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clipperboy24 wrote:
CP3Best wrote:
Why's everyone bringing up Bradley, he sucks, 7.6 ppg, 5.6 in the PO! That's not such a good example!

look at his specific game stats and you will see how he has potential and watch his game. Bradley is a very good player.

cp3best just says dumbs***at times. bradley is a very good defender. he can knock down the 3 at an effective rate. i can see why ebled is compared to him. we saw what he can do on defense. and yes, id love to see ebled and cp3 start together depending on matchups. those two together can lock down the opposing team's guards, even if ebled gives up size. physically and athletically i call ebled mini lebron. guy is a sick athlete. i would not want ebled to leave. hes too talented to let him go.

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