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Post Subject: DeAndre Jordan Making Strides Post ID: 309488by Clippersfan86 » Oct 18, 2012 - 12:49 PM PST
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http://www.ocregister.com/sports/jordan ... throw.html

Great read and 100 percent true. Last night despite terrible free throw shooting and missing a bunch of shots he still managed to grab 16 boards have 3 blocks and get a couple steals. In the past the same Jordan would have lost his cool and given up, letting the game spiral out of control. He had 10 rebounds in the 3rd quarter alone!

BTW I didn't like the comment by Kmart in the article, it seemed like it wasn't supportive of DJ at all and that attitude is probably the main reason he's gone and hasn't been picked up.



                
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Post Subject: RE: DeAndre Jordan Making Strides Post ID: 309489by ClipperB23 » Oct 18, 2012 - 12:55 PM PST
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^ Any player who refuses to check back into a game when the coach calls on you gets no respect from me. Kenyon, good luck finding a team, in China.

                
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Post Subject: RE: DeAndre Jordan Making Strides Post ID: 309490by Clippersfan86 » Oct 18, 2012 - 01:04 PM PST
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Agree Bryan. It's a shame because if he just bought in more he could have really finished his career nicely here. We could be having him AND Odom first bigs off bench instead of guys like Hollins and Turiaf but his ego was too big in the end.

                
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Post Subject: RE: DeAndre Jordan Making Strides Post ID: 309491by CP3Best » Oct 18, 2012 - 01:05 PM PST
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I feel bad for him, not making his fts, working so hard, and shooting so good in practice but can't make anything in the game!

                
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Post Subject: RE: DeAndre Jordan Making Strides Post ID: 309495by Clippersfan86 » Oct 18, 2012 - 01:09 PM PST
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That's the number 1 way to know it's a mental issue. Shaq supposedly hit 80 percent or better in practice and scrimmages over the course of his career too.

                
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Post Subject: RE: DeAndre Jordan Making Strides Post ID: 309497by CP3Best » Oct 18, 2012 - 01:12 PM PST
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But I don't understand how you can be so bad, you leave me and I hit that much and more!

                
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Post Subject: RE: DeAndre Jordan Making Strides Post ID: 309499by ClipsGForce » Oct 18, 2012 - 01:35 PM PST
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It's mostly mental. Game and practice is totally different element. Also you have to factor the wear and tear throughout hte game. He just need not to think too much about the free throw and let it flow.

                
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Post ID: 309542by 1clipperfan » Oct 18, 2012 - 05:49 PM PST
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I was part of a group pregame at the Lakers/Knicks game (Mozgov dunk game) that got to shoot a free throw on court just a bit before game time with a good amount of people in the stands. I felt confident, knowing that I shoot free throws pretty well on a practice court. There wasn't any stakes, no prize to win, and as I walked shoulder to shoulder past Amare Stoudamire I got even more pumped up because I realized that if he's 6'11" then I'm 6'10", because I was right there with him (I'm 6'7"). I felt like I belonged. Stepped up to the line, took a few dribbles, looked at the rim and realized that it was NOTHING like shooting on a practice court. The place was huge, the fans were loud, and everything around you is moving, not standing still like the walls of a practice court.

I airballed it and walked away with my tail between my legs (figuratively).

I personally think the Clippers should build a room that has a 360 degree projection "in game simulator" for free throws that makes it look just like the in game situation, and put Blake and Deandre in there as often as possible. It would be a good investment.

                
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Post ID: 309544by cleepers » Oct 18, 2012 - 06:03 PM PST
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This is what pre-season is all about. I'm glad to see that Vinny's continuing to let Willie Green shoot and going to DJ even though he knows they'll hack him. Despite his nerves at the line, he's still playing very well overall... the FT's will get better if he keeps playing with his current confidence.

I see him being around 60% by season's end... he's improved from 37% to 44% to 52% last year. He's getting better, and the more he shoots in-game, the better he'll get.

                
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Post ID: 309546by bullterrierclipsfan1349 » Oct 18, 2012 - 06:11 PM PST
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1clipperfan wrote:
CP3Best wrote:
But I don't understand how you can be so bad, you leave me and I hit that much and more!

I was part of a group pregame at the Lakers/Knicks game (Mozgov dunk game) that got to shoot a free throw on court just a bit before game time with a good amount of people in the stands. I felt confident, knowing that I shoot free throws pretty well on a practice court. There wasn't any stakes, no prize to win, and as I walked shoulder to shoulder past Amare Stoudamire I got even more pumped up because I realized that if he's 6'11" then I'm 6'10", because I was right there with him (I'm 6'7"). I felt like I belonged. Stepped up to the line, took a few dribbles, looked at the rim and realized that it was NOTHING like shooting on a practice court. The place was huge, the fans were loud, and everything around you is moving, not standing still like the walls of a practice court.

I airballed it and walked away with my tail between my legs (figuratively).

I personally think the Clippers should build a room that has a 360 degree projection "in game simulator" for free throws that makes it look just like the in game situation, and put Blake and Deandre in there as often as possible. It would be a good investment.

amazing suggestion. some sort of in-vivo desensitization therapy would help as well. repetition is the key. muscle memory is what they have to get down. like mike smith and don maclean said last night, it takes a while to fix the bad habits both bg and dj had up til now regarding shooting ft's.

                
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Post ID: 309558by CP3Best » Oct 18, 2012 - 06:53 PM PST
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Why don't they just get DJ a psychiatrist? That'll do something good right?

                
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Post ID: 309568by tense2 » Oct 18, 2012 - 07:07 PM PST
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bullterrierclipsfan1349 wrote:
1clipperfan wrote:
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But I don't understand how you can be so bad, you leave me and I hit that much and more!

I was part of a group pregame at the Lakers/Knicks game (Mozgov dunk game) that got to shoot a free throw on court just a bit before game time with a good amount of people in the stands. I felt confident, knowing that I shoot free throws pretty well on a practice court. There wasn't any stakes, no prize to win, and as I walked shoulder to shoulder past Amare Stoudamire I got even more pumped up because I realized that if he's 6'11" then I'm 6'10", because I was right there with him (I'm 6'7"). I felt like I belonged. Stepped up to the line, took a few dribbles, looked at the rim and realized that it was NOTHING like shooting on a practice court. The place was huge, the fans were loud, and everything around you is moving, not standing still like the walls of a practice court.

I airballed it and walked away with my tail between my legs (figuratively).

I personally think the Clippers should build a room that has a 360 degree projection "in game simulator" for free throws that makes it look just like the in game situation, and put Blake and Deandre in there as often as possible. It would be a good investment.

amazing suggestion. some sort of in-vivo desensitization therapy would help as well. repetition is the key. muscle memory is what they have to get down. like mike smith and don maclean said last night, it takes a while to fix the bad habits both bg and dj had up til now regarding shooting ft's.

Maybe DJ and Blake should be required to throw in some $ to help build it, lol.

                
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Post ID: 309572by Phu7 » Oct 18, 2012 - 07:19 PM PST
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Kmart is still bitter. DJ is really lucky they didn't get kmart while he was sleeping on the plane.

                
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Post ID: 309576by PleaseSellDTS » Oct 18, 2012 - 07:51 PM PST
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I hope that was just a figurative tail ..

                
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Post ID: 309595by Keatonsays » Oct 18, 2012 - 11:32 PM PST
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I do remember DJ tweeting something like "im going to work harder" after the Clippers got swept from the second round. Glad to see he stuck to his words unlike some another Clippers big man >.>

It's awesome to get another perspective on why his freethrow shooting is so bad. It's more of a mental thing than anything. Maybe he should try some meditation or hypnosis so that he could focus better when he's at the line.

                
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Post ID: 309606by insignificant » Oct 19, 2012 - 12:51 AM PST
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which game was this?

                
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Post ID: 309610by cleepers » Oct 19, 2012 - 01:01 AM PST
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Yeah, and some Ativan.

DJ just needs to keep practicing his new form and get used to shooting in-game FT's.

Don't be so quick to jump to the medical industry for help... they're a big part of the reason that we are one of the most over-medicated, yet physically under-achieving nations on the planet.

                
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Post ID: 309612by ClipperB23 » Oct 19, 2012 - 01:13 AM PST
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insignificant wrote:
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^ Any player who refuses to check back into a game when the coach calls on you gets no respect from me. Kenyon, good luck finding a team, in China.

which game was this?

I don't remember which exact game but it was in the playoffs.

                
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Post ID: 309614by bullterrierclipsfan1349 » Oct 19, 2012 - 01:29 AM PST
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it can be mental, but muscle memory is more important in shooting ft's. it will take time but i think dj and bg will get it down

                
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Post ID: 309627by toohipcliptoslip » Oct 19, 2012 - 05:42 AM PST
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Now as a budding DJ supporter.

His FT shooting is in head but more important it seems like he makes the same mistake with every shot.--Too high an arch. If you are consistant in your mistakes they are easy to fix. BG's form sucks. If you shoot a gun and you group your shots close but outside you just move your body

Most importantly he was playing against Jefferson and did well. Good centers used to torch him. Jefferson probably torched him last yr. He needs to improve his jumper - only a semi-joke

                
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Post ID: 309635by CP3Best » Oct 19, 2012 - 10:40 AM PST
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If you said that Bg just sucks, you didn't watch the game my man. PERFECT form, perfect square of the elbow of the dribble, no hesitation, jump, and shot, and what a sweet jump shot it is. Can't believe you just said that BG didn't work as hard as DJ, he accomplished more significant strides in his shot, than DJ. You put DJ against a big manlike Al still can't do that much, experience will do him good. BUT NEVER SAY BG DIDN'T IMPROVE, cause that's just plain wrong on so many levels.

                
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Post ID: 309647by marten81 » Oct 19, 2012 - 11:33 AM PST
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cleepers wrote:
CP3Best wrote:
Why don't they just get DJ a psychiatrist? That'll do something good right?

Yeah, and some Ativan.

DJ just needs to keep practicing his new form and get used to shooting in-game FT's.

Don't be so quick to jump to the medical industry for help... they're a big part of the reason that we are one of the most over-medicated, yet physically under-achieving nations on the planet.

ehm theres no talk of medication in this thread, or im missing it.. there is some about meditation tho :p

                
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Post ID: 309649by CP3Best » Oct 19, 2012 - 11:47 AM PST
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it's called treatment. Treatment isn't necessarily medication. Psychiatrists help you TALK through it somehow, don't ask me how they do it!

                
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Post ID: 309653by pageC4 » Oct 19, 2012 - 12:11 PM PST
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cleepers wrote:
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Why don't they just get DJ a psychiatrist? That'll do something good right?

Yeah, and some Ativan.

DJ just needs to keep practicing his new form and get used to shooting in-game FT's.

Don't be so quick to jump to the medical industry for help... they're a big part of the reason that we are one of the most over-medicated, yet physically under-achieving nations on the planet.

lol its the american way cleepers. blame your shortcomings on some condition and not take personal accountability.Very Happy

                
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Post ID: 309712by toohipcliptoslip » Oct 19, 2012 - 05:05 PM PST
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First I never said BG didn't work. We don't know who worked the hardest. We weren't there

As far as his FT shot he still has that glitch. It's just after he comes up on his legs and just before he lets go of the ball. Have you seen decent FT shooting from him? 70% is what he needs. As far as his jump shot watch. He doesn't shoot in rhythm. It's an old school set shot. He stops after he gets the ball, looks at the hoop then shoots. A gppd FT shooter has one fluid movement. His shooting percentage will tell us.

I don't understand the second to last sentence. Please elaborate.

                
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Post ID: 309713by toohipcliptoslip » Oct 19, 2012 - 05:07 PM PST
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They allow you to bitch about your Signifigant Other for an hour then charge you $200

                
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Post ID: 309737by cleepers » Oct 19, 2012 - 06:51 PM PST
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I never met anyone who went to a shrink and didn't get prescribed medication.

99% of psychiatry is bogus...

  1. Convince someone they have problems beyond the normal ups and downs of life.
  2. Prescribe mind-altering drugs to numb their emotions.
  3. Cash huge bonus checks from pharmaceutical companies.

When I was your age, people used to work out their problems with friends and family. They didn't need a professional excuse-maker to justify their behavior. But that was a long time ago... before half our elementary school kids were on drugs for depression, ADHD or "broad spectrum autism" - which basically includes any little fucker who won't sit still and behave himself.

Follow the money, kid.

                
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