Do you people want to know the problem to the Clippers unsucessfulness? It is quite simple. Dunleavy wants to leave. Kaman doesnt want to stay unless Dunleavy is here. Maggette wants out as long as Dunleavy is in. Its a twisted situation. Its like a magnet. All the people are same charges and are repeling each other.
Dunleavy wanted out, we forced his hand showing big bucks. Dunleavy stayed, that eased Kaman (what also eased Kaman was 52 fu*kin dollars). And Maggette is still under contract. Solution let Dunleavy go, let Kaman go, bring a good coach. Outcome? Cap space opens up. Use Tim T. at the C until another center is aquired. Clippers will barley make playoffs the way they are playing, not even. We cannot, as the clipper organization, force people to stay together by bribing them. We are WITNESSES TO THE OUTCOME. WE SUCK, WE ARE LOOSING. And thats that. we need to shape up people (and a note to people who go to games... DONT BOO YOUR OWN TEAM, we are thier only support, it does not help for them to hear BOOS from THIER OWN STANDS). I am angry too, probably more angry, but i dont dare Boo the team i stand by.
Hmmmm....the reason for the Clippers problems is that Dunleavy wanted to leave? Interesting logic...makes no sense, but interesting I guess. If Dunleave really wanted to leave, he wouldn't have any trouble finding a new team to hire him next season. The NBA is so limited in their ability to field quality coaches that many teams would jump at the chance to hire a mediocre Mike Dunleavy.
As far as the Kaman contract...get over it!! Centers in this league, whether they are superstars or not, are pulling in at least $10 million a year. Chandler, Dalembert, Nene...they all have huge contracts. Are they worth it? No, but that's the league now a days. Players don't earn the money before it is offered to them. They sign the contract and people hope that they are going to be good enough to justify the big money. Players should have to prove their worth before signing these contracts but teams continue to throw money around like it's nothing. It's not right but that's the way it is.
In saying that, the Clippers blew a huge opportunity when they didn't sieze the chance to trade for Iverson. While he has a huge contract, at least he has shown that he deserves it (well, nobody really deserves the money that NBA players get, but you know what I mean). He's an all-star, has been to the NBA finals (with a team of nobodies), and draws fans like crazy (Denver sold over 300 season tickets in the first few hours after the trade was announced). The Clippers had a chance to make a big move, the ball was in their court (all they had to do was offer Livingston), and they dribbled the ball off their foot and out of bounds. Typical Clippers.
For all the talk about how things have changed in Clipper-land, things are pretty much the same. The Clippers are second fiddle to the Lakers. The Clippers tease their fans with one good season in which they make a run in the playoffs. Instead of sustaining that, they currently have the 8th WORST record in the league.
I have no problem with Clipper fans booing their team to show their dissatisfaction. I've been to about 10 games this year, and about double that last year. The Clipper fans have been overwhelmingly supportive of this team over the years. Most of those have been bad times. Last year was different and Clipper fans finally got a taste of success. We had high expectations this year. The team is not living up to those expectations and the fans have a right to be upset and let the team know that they are upset. Believe me, I see the fans at the games because I am one of them. We cheer and cheer, but when the team displays the lack of effort and are not working to reach their full potential, I hope the crowd continues to let them have it. Without that, fans are accepting what we see on the court. Are you happy with anything less than a full effort? Are you happy with mediocrity? Well I'm not and I'm not going to be a robot and accept this team's lack of effort. The boo's should continue until there is a change!
well mr. sarcastic how is it interesting, if it dont make sense? Its not that hard. in case your biased slef didnt catch it the first time, let me try to spell it out for you. Dunleavy wanted out, we forced his hand because we showed him a lot of money. An unwiling coach will not do as good as a wiling one (especially an unwiling mediocre coach). he wants to go and coach his son, let him go. We didnt and now things are messing up.
and "the ball was in their court and they dribbled the ball off their foot and out of bounds" yeah thats the 52-million-dollar Kaman move. haha.
i find it hard to belive you can be a fan of Kaman. I can agree with you on Benoit, but u and i both no Kaman is no where near that. SO how do you find space to love him. I like rodman and M.Malone and i look at centers now and it disgusts me. Yes even wilcox, the league centers of 2004 and later are girls. Even Big Ben. Hes good, but nothing compared with the earlier big men.
The team is chemically unbalanced, yes shooting is off. But the team chemistry reflects in the shooting and overall performance, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. even spurs have off shooting night, but the chemistry is there. That is why even when they have an off night, they can pull off a W.
You were suggesting to bring a player of AI's caliber to the team. Can u imagine the egos going at each other??? AI was a NO and im glad the Clipps refused. The team wouldve completely fallen apart.
You spelling it out didn't help much. Either I'm not as good of a reader as I thought I was or you're just a terrible speller. Just tell me how you came to the conclusion that "Dunleavy wanted out"? Did it come to you in a dream or what? A while back you wrote a response to me in which you told me to do my research before writing so much. So I'm wondering where you find your facts on Dunleavy wanting out. I'm taking it from some of your posts that your not a close personal friend of Mikes, so who's giving you your information????
Well first of all excuse my spelling i will work harder to improve it (i have no microsoft word to spell check). and i get my info on TV, Radio, NBA.com, espn.com, espn mag, and i also have a friend that works in the organization. He hasnt told me much, but some info i do get from him (he is no agent, but he isnt a cleaner or towel boy). I will try to cite my sources from now on, thank you. and merry christmas!
By the way, "Dumb-leavy" isn't going anywhere. I'm sure, being a huge Clipper fan like you are, you know that the team has officially resigned him to his four-year extension. So get used to Kaman and "Dumb-leavy...they'll be here for the next few years.
Well If you're a true fan of a team, you'd never boo your team. And a person with character would never boo the other team either. Who would have to make the decision on Dunleavy's firing??? If we continue to have a bad season, people will obviously be calling for his head. But if the decision is up to Sterling, I bet we keep him, because he isnt about to throw money away. If it's up to Baylor, I dunno.
Hey the season isnt over. But with the way the Suns are clicking again, the way the Spurs continue to play tough and with Iverson reviving Denver...the Clippers will have to play their hearts out to win anything in the west. It's possible. It can't fall all on the coach either. If the players found the audacity to believe they can win despite, the inadequacies of the coach dont matter.
There's nothing we as fans can do, so why don't we just support the team we CHOSE to root for. Starting now - I refuse to complain about the coach or players anymore. Let it shake out and hope for the best.
If you're like me, you told every basketball fan you know that the Clippers are winning it all this year. And they probably said "yeah right". But you belived it anyways. And I know it hurts a bit, but if we turned out to be wrong, its no big deal because none of us are clairvoyant anyways. Nobody knows the end result, we just hope its our team.
Go Clips!!! Hang in there guys so one day we can all celebrate.
Couldn't disagree with you more about how a true fan never "boos" their team. If you bought a product that didn't perform as advertised, would you just accept that product...or would you take it back and complain a bit until you get what you wanted? Hopefully, you'd do the latter.
People that never "boo" or complain to try to get something fixed are the same one's who are sitting back and accepting Americans losing their lives in a worthless war right now. The same thinking goes into it...we can't "boo" America because we are true "fans". If we "boo" , then we're "un-American". Change only happens if people stop accepting the "status-quo" and begin to stand up and be heard.
Sorry for bringing up politics in a Clipper forum, but people need to be able to voice their displeasure. If we don't, other people are going to be making decisions for you for the rest of your life.
I understand what you're saying with the entertainment (clippers) being a product. yeah if you dont like the result, you have the right to choose something else. But my point is that complaining about something you have no control over OR degrading something (booing) that you have no control over is just a waste of energy. Booing is being bitter. And having bitterness is like you drinking poison and hoping the other person dies. The Clippers players really dont give a damn if people are booing. They only care about the ones supporting them. A true fan in my opinion, has a love of the game, and realizes that their team wont win all the time. Thus it being pointless to degrade their performances. Sometimes the other teams are just better on a given night or in general.
I disagree about the war statement, considering the US had the balls to stand up for democracy in Iraq. Instead of accepting Iraq being run by hostile dictators, they took a stand. I think you got it a bit wrong but that's just my opinion.
No offense taken at all. Everyone is entitled to their opinion...that's what America is about. About America having the balls to stand up for democracy...I agree to a point. I guess my biggest problem is that America picks and chooses where it "fights" for freedom. Iraq is a worthwhile objective because of it's oil...but places like Rwanda and Darfur are left alone, despite the genocide that went on (Rwanda) or continues to go on (Darfur). How can we choose to help one, but not the other?
Anyway, hope you have a great holiday...and let's continue to cheer for those Clippers; unless they keep playing like they are...then you can cheer and I'll boo!!! : ) Take care.