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Do you like this Clipper trade of Eric Bledsoe & Caron Butler for Jared Dudley & JJ Redick?
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Post ID: 397241by Clippers_FTW » Jul 03, 2013 - 03:14 PM PST
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why would he sign with the bucks?



                
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Post ID: 397242by tense2 » Jul 03, 2013 - 03:15 PM PST
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$$$$$$ and they need a sg.

                
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Post ID: 397247by toohipcliptoslip » Jul 03, 2013 - 03:21 PM PST
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There are two. I've been saying this all along

Wayans + Dooling

                
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Post ID: 397265by lobcityhawaii » Jul 03, 2013 - 03:56 PM PST
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Post ID: 397266by mj_shoefanatic » Jul 03, 2013 - 03:57 PM PST
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Clippers_FTW wrote:
why would he sign with the bucks?

                
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Post ID: 397267by CapsNClips » Jul 03, 2013 - 03:58 PM PST
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Damn, now the CTB banner is useless since we don't have Caron and Bled anymore. Sucks, because I like it a lot.

                
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Post ID: 397268by Akclipps » Jul 03, 2013 - 03:58 PM PST
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i was kinda sad about letting go bledsoe and caron but if u think about it.. Bledsoe and Caron always wants to dribble the ball, sometimes there so open on the three point line but they still drive it iinside n it only cloggs up the paint. Having reddick and dudley will create more space and they're going to be so open when cp3 is commanding docs system. we never had players who is deadly on shooting 3's and can move without the ball.

we need role players like this who understand their role and not trying to do too much ending up with forced shot like chauncey

                
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Post ID: 397269by Agent0 » Jul 03, 2013 - 04:02 PM PST
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It's okay, who's your second favourite free agent, maybe the Clippers will get hI'm

                
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Post ID: 397273by jarca » Jul 03, 2013 - 04:18 PM PST
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Reddick wasn't the first option in Orlando and certainly not with the buck. When did reddick have to carry a team?

Anyway I think the real price of the trade is Dudley

                
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Post ID: 397274by mj_shoefanatic » Jul 03, 2013 - 04:20 PM PST
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Waiting for the Redick/Dudley placement tbh wink

                
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Post ID: 397298by ClipShowRidin84-Present » Jul 03, 2013 - 05:01 PM PST
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Clips should have forced the suns to throw in kendall marshall with dudley

                
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Post ID: 397409by pageC4 » Jul 03, 2013 - 08:18 PM PST
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favourite? By chance would you be british? The brits spelling of certain words is very different like colour vs. color.

                
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Post ID: 397464by Voyeur » Jul 04, 2013 - 12:13 AM PST
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One of Redick's greatest plays Very Happy

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Post ID: 397466by TheBlakeShow » Jul 04, 2013 - 12:27 AM PST
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Now imagine this starting line up except with a center in the joakim noah status :0

                
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Post ID: 397474by Akclipps » Jul 04, 2013 - 01:22 AM PST
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Lmao jj reddick ran over joey crawford. Lol that bitch. He needs to keep doing to that stupid ref.

                
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Post ID: 397476by LuvMeSumMEE » Jul 04, 2013 - 01:34 AM PST
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It was awesome having Butler on the team, but it's ALWAYS cool for a homer like me to have a SoCal guy like Dudley on the roster. Blake better nut up pretty quick here or he's gonna get his ass whooped at practice when the cameras aren't rolling.

                
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Post ID: 397479by Amnesty_David_Stern » Jul 04, 2013 - 01:59 AM PST
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Wonder if these guys are excited or not. Were not a team like the Lakers, Celtics, Knicks or 76ers who have a history that is prestigious and goes back farther than the Bulls who really made their mark in the late 80's and 90's. What I am getting at is, those teams I listed have fans across the United States, and even if they are stinky these teams have kids growing up dying to play for them, just to feel what it's like to put on the green and white, purple and gold etc etc. and walk out onto the home court and represent the team you wanted to play for, for so long.

Clippers have pretty much been crap, forever. I really wonder if when Blake got drafted if he really thought this team was going places, or if he'd just be the centerpiece the team would build around while they struggled and he would just play here until he could leave. How about CP3, wonder if when he was drafted and during his tenure in New Orleans that he'd actually WANT to get traded to the Clippers and then sign a 5 year 100 million dollar contract. How about Dudley and Redick, they've been around only a short period of time, but long enough to see how bad this team can be. Wonder if they thought, during the prime of their careers they'd be traded to the Clippers who were a good/great team who are tied for 3rd to win the entire thing next year?

Pretty crazy when you think about it. For decades people hated it here, dreaded the owner and the poor records, waiting for their chance to leave. Now guys take pay cuts to come here and want to be a part of the show, and hopefully something special. I'm proud to say I am a Clipper fan, always have been. But I am most excited for the time that is now, I really think this time right now will be the golden age of being a Clipper fan, at least for the next 10 years.

                
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Post ID: 397509by LeftHook » Jul 04, 2013 - 05:57 AM PST
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I know for sure Jared Dudley is excited. He's tweeted and done so much Clippers related stuff within the 24 hours he's been traded.

                
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Post ID: 397511by Agent0 » Jul 04, 2013 - 06:07 AM PST
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They both seem like they love it. Redick chose to come here since it was a sign and trade, so he obviously would have to be excited.

                
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Post ID: 397525by Voyeur » Jul 04, 2013 - 09:41 AM PST
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The substitute talking heads on First Take were talking about our moves. One guy thinks we aren't going to be any better than last year and cited the fact we don't have a 3rd member of a Big 3...

...but I think that's only important if you don't have good enough role players around you. If you have a Big 2, but consistent role players around them, do you really need a Big 3? Besides, does Chris Bosh REALLY qualify as a member of his team's Big 3? Dude averaged 12.1 pts and 7.3 rebounds. Jamal Crawford averaged better than that for us. And it's entirely possible Redick will also.

                
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Post ID: 397526by JahvonTheClip » Jul 04, 2013 - 09:49 AM PST
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Their so dumb! The spurs don't have a big 3 anymore and neither do the THunder, yet they have high expectations correct!? I need to get one of these jobs and start actually speaking like I have some sense!

                
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Post ID: 397531by Voyeur » Jul 04, 2013 - 09:57 AM PST
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That same dude said Ibaka was OKC's 3rd guy. lol

                
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Post ID: 397532by Clippers_FTW » Jul 04, 2013 - 10:09 AM PST
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2nd favorite huh... hmm.... They would have to fill a need. I'm not sold on Reddick.. but thats because I haven't really seen him play. He may end up being good.. idk... After Mayo I really didn't care... I knew we couldnt get Iggy.. so...

                
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Post ID: 397533by Clippers_FTW » Jul 04, 2013 - 10:12 AM PST
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ehhhhh I'm fine with just Blake and Paul

                
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Post ID: 397537by ohMEohMy! » Jul 04, 2013 - 10:28 AM PST
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What is so great about Blake and CP3 is that they both relish the opportunity to start something great with this franchise, despite all of its poor history. They are pioneers, savvy investors, and willing leaders.

                
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Post ID: 397540by Voyeur » Jul 04, 2013 - 10:34 AM PST
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I like Tim Legler's take on this trade. He was on Coach and Company's podcast and called this a "landslide" victory for the Clippers. He's been kind of a fan of the team and even thought we'd make the WCF this year before we went out in the first round. But he cited the fact that 4 out of the NBA's 6 best 3 point shooting teams made it past the first round this year. And 2 of those made the Finals. He also says that Doc understands how a team fits together like a puzzle and need "complimentary" players. He admits Bledsoe is a better all around player than Redick, but at the same time says Redick fits better for the team.

He also takes issue with the idea that Redick isn't a good defender. He calls Redick a "solid" defensive player. He claims Redick is stigmatized by the "white guard can't guard anybody" idea. While Redick isn't as quick as a guy like Bledsoe but in terms of being a keen defensive player, understanding game plans, rotations, traps and being able to keep most guys in front of him, he is more than serviceable. If you want to hear, you may as well fast forward to the 40 minute mark.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=9446016

                
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Post ID: 397542by Agent0 » Jul 04, 2013 - 10:44 AM PST
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"Big three" has become the new overrated thing in the NBA. What is important is having player that fit. For example, Dorell Wright is a better player for Memphis because of his shooting, high 3PT volume and decent defense than having a "big three" that includes Rudy Gay.

If you have two quality players, unless the third guy is a good fit or just really high impact, it is better to surround your team with quality guys that fit around each other and compliment each other.

Voyeur, that's the good thing about Redick, he's a smart, funds mantel defender, so he won't make big plays on defense, he won't shut anyone down, but he'll stay in front of his man, force him the right way, he'll make the right rotations, he fights around screens, he stays low, etc. What he will struggle with is effectively contesting shots, and he won't have the athletic ability to do things like double down and then effectively get back out to the shooter on a consistent basis.

Offensively he will give this team a lot of movement. Doc will use him in a lot of down screens and he will draw attention and get the screening bigs baskets on dump downs, and keep some defensive focus so when Paul is going to work, the defenses eyes aren't all on him.

                
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Post ID: 397543by Voyeur » Jul 04, 2013 - 10:48 AM PST
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Sounds perfectly reasonable. I can't wait to see how these guys come together.

                
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Post ID: 397566by DeanWormer » Jul 04, 2013 - 01:23 PM PST
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I loved watching EB, but I always wondered how much of his success came from CP3 wearing out the defense prior to EB coming into the game. And Caron disappeared so badly in the playoffs, it was time to upgrade his position. I guess I'll know how much CP3 had to do with EB's success about 50 games into next season. I'm down with the trade. Is it November yet??

                
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Post ID: 397610by Clippers_FTW » Jul 04, 2013 - 04:07 PM PST
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Went to the sun's forum and heard a lot of interesting things... both bad and good about Bledsoe. Appears to be 50/50 about the trade.. some like it. some don't.

                
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Post ID: 397612by AirGriffin » Jul 04, 2013 - 04:17 PM PST
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That's because Bledsoe is overrated to an extent. His overall game is far from even being solid. When he becomes a main option for scoring and is seeing more minutes, his efficiency will decrease and his deficiencies will show even more. Bledsoe is a good player for being a back up to a point guard like CP, but he has a lot of work to do. Just my opinion on how I feel about Bledsoe.

After all, if he was so great, trust me the Clips would have tried to keep him as backup point or play at 2 some what.

We just got a lot better with Redick and Dudley. Better shooters and floor spacing. With Doc system and setting screens for players, Dudley and Redick better suit the roster with their ability to make shots from distance. Green, Butler, Barnes, and Bledsoe are all far too inconsistent from the 3 and mid range. Especially Barnes and Bledsoe. And Butler was getting old, best time to shop him. He wasn't the same player. Having 0 points and 5 points in 2 games against he Grizzly in the playoffs when it matters most was unacceptable and pathetic.

                
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Post ID: 397621by Akclipps » Jul 04, 2013 - 05:39 PM PST
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We don't need no big three. Chicago bulls won 6 titles with having just 2 superstars. The rest are just role players that really fit in the team. We had bledsoe caron jamal chauncey and odom who only produce if they're dribbling the ball and thats One of the reason why we had so many iso's last year because evryone wants the ball.second is vinny's lacking of a system

                
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Post ID: 397623by Clippers_FTW » Jul 04, 2013 - 05:54 PM PST
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Bulls also had the best player of all time.. that kinda helped Wink plus its a different game.... C'mon bro.. that was the 90's.

"Big 3" is obviously working for the "HEAT", 1 finals appearance and 2 championships in last 3 years??? Its really a big 2 if you ask me though... which is what Jordan and the bulls had. If only DJ can turn into a taller more athletic Dennis Rodman Smile

                
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Post ID: 397624by Clippers_FTW » Jul 04, 2013 - 05:55 PM PST
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I became a Clipper fan when Jordan left the Bulls...

                
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Post ID: 397626by Akclipps » Jul 04, 2013 - 06:03 PM PST
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What i was saying was it doesn't matter if you have 3or 5superstars on your team. If ur players doesn't know their role or they don't fit your not going to win any championship. Just look at the lakers when they had shaq kobe mailman and gp. Looks good on paper but didn't win a championship

                
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Post ID: 397637by Agent0 » Jul 04, 2013 - 07:38 PM PST
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What's truly working for the Heat is having Lebron James, the league's best player.

                
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Post ID: 397638by Clippers_FTW » Jul 04, 2013 - 07:39 PM PST
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I can dig it

                
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Post ID: 397644by Agent0 » Jul 04, 2013 - 08:19 PM PST
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Wink is there a good team that wouldn't be a top contender with Lebron?

                
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Post ID: 397656by toohipcliptoslip » Jul 04, 2013 - 09:16 PM PST
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The Clippers the year after our playoff run with Magettee etc.

                
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Post ID: 397657by pageC4 » Jul 04, 2013 - 09:27 PM PST
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exactly. Even the lalers with pau and kobe lost in their first year together, so did miami.

                
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Post ID: 397674by jarca » Jul 04, 2013 - 11:06 PM PST
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Marco Bellinelli just signed with the spurs for 2 yrs for 6 mil. I would much rather have him than reddick. Then trade Bledsoe for danny granger

                
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Post ID: 397675by Voyeur » Jul 04, 2013 - 11:11 PM PST
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Why Belinelli over Redick?

                
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Post ID: 397676by jarca » Jul 04, 2013 - 11:39 PM PST
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Cheaper. We can save ebled n butler for a legit sf. I just don't think that Dudley and reddick are the two missing pieces for us to win a title.

                
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Post ID: 397677by jarca » Jul 04, 2013 - 11:40 PM PST
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Oh and belinelli has proven that he can play rough defense under a defensive coach in thibs

                
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Post ID: 397681by Voyeur » Jul 04, 2013 - 11:49 PM PST
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I'll give it to you on the cheaper part, everything else....

                
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Post ID: 397709by clipperboy24 » Jul 05, 2013 - 08:08 AM PST
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I hate the lakers but they actually played really well that year and if Malone didn't get injured they most likely woulda won the title that year. Malone was helping keep Payton under control not just contributing on the court

                
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Post ID: 397713by Akclipps » Jul 05, 2013 - 09:18 AM PST
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but clearly they didn't cuz having too many superstars in one team are overrated. GP was always trying to do too much.. kobe and shaq already have beef at that time. theres no way they couldve beat the piston team who r well balanced team at that time. I think Clippers can beat the heat without having a "big three" or even win a championship just having the right players who know their role that fits well in the team, willing to play as a team and not trying to do too much

                
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Post ID: 397714by Clippers_FTW » Jul 05, 2013 - 09:19 AM PST
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I would have liked to pick up IGGY... Chris Paul, Iggy, Blake Griffin... now "THATS" a big 3.

                
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Post ID: 397715by Clippers_FTW » Jul 05, 2013 - 09:20 AM PST
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But... its all about making it work.. with shooters on the wings now Blake and Chris have more room to do things... Its going to work out and I'm feeling better and better about it.. Just wish Dudley was the athlete that Iggy is.

                
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Post ID: 397716by Clippers_FTW » Jul 05, 2013 - 09:21 AM PST
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PS.. my favorite Clippers was #1 Blake Griffin #2 Eric Bledsoe then #3 Chris Paul... now that Paul is signed long term I can buy his jersey

                
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