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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Wait for it....camby for hie
Posted: Aug 31, 2009 - 01:06 AM PST
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| I can stomach anyone but the Lakers but I understand where you are coming from. I'm all for a underdog franchise getting a title. |
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Post subject: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Sep 10, 2009 - 11:36 PM PST
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If this could happen, I think we should do it. Marc Gasol is a good player and I think he would be happy here. Plus, it would hype up the Lakers/Clippers rivalry.
He nearly averaged Kaman's numbers in his rookie season, and played all 82 games.
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Post subject: RE: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Sep 10, 2009 - 11:49 PM PST
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| um, sounds pretty okay. but the thing with kaman is, he is pretty big and plays some defense. gasol is big, but i haven't seen him play much, so i cant say if this is a good idea or not. what i do know is that kaman can dominate almost any center in the paint with his little hook shot. the only reason i hate kaman is cause of his damn injuries. if gasol can learn how to do at least a little post plays, then id do this trade in a heartbeat, because part of not building chemistry has to do with kaman being injured, and the team not being able to bond on the court. |
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Post subject: RE: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Sep 11, 2009 - 12:06 AM PST
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| Gasol is a good backup center, Kaman is a starter. If that trade happen the Clippers better get more than just Gasol. |
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Post subject: Re: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Sep 11, 2009 - 12:06 AM PST
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phaded21 wrote:
If this could happen, I think we should do it. Marc Gasol is a good player and I think he would be happy here. Plus, it would hype up the Lakers/Clippers rivalry.
He nearly averaged Kaman's numbers in his rookie season, and played all 82 games.
Do you guys think they should attempt this trade?
I doubt it would really happen. Memphis has a young nucleus and it looks like trading one young center for an older, more injury prone version would be foolish on their part. But this is the same franchise that practically gave away Pau Gasol in just about the most one sided deal in history, so I guess we could swindle Marc Gasol away. Still, I don't think it would be a good idea because I'm very content with Deandre Jordan's progress. Still, if it was on the table I guess we should do it just to get rid of Kaman's clumsy ass. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Sep 11, 2009 - 12:13 AM PST
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| ...how would the money work? Plus, why would we kick the team that gave us our bench ( Randolph) in the gut after such a trade? I think that well ran dry once Randolph left LAX. lol |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Sep 11, 2009 - 12:14 AM PST
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| Oops, this belongs in the trade ideas thread... |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Sep 11, 2009 - 12:29 AM PST
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clipper*joe wrote:
...how would the money work? Plus, why would we kick the team that gave us our bench ( Randolph) in the gut after such a trade? I think that well ran dry once Randolph left LAX. lol
I don't think it would work to be honest. It was more of a respone to phaded 21's quote. Sure it would be nice but i doubt it could be done. Also, I don't think that the Randolph trade was a bad deal for memphis. Character issues aside Randolph was a great scorer and rebounder. He lead the team in scoring and was probably in the top two in rebounds. Up until he was arrested for a D.U.I. he was one of the bright spots in a dismal season (obviously other than Gordan and Jordans rookie campaigns) I understand the move was to give Blake playing time and clear up congestion in the front court, but to be honest he is a good player he just needs to stay out of trouble. So I think the deal benefitted us, but we in no way swindled them |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Sep 11, 2009 - 12:43 AM PST
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| ^^ totally agree with your post. But, I was addressing Phade's original post. While i agree that Memphis got someone they wanted, we totally benefited from that trade. It was a godsend... |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Sep 11, 2009 - 01:36 AM PST
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lakerh8r wrote:
clipper*joe wrote:
...how would the money work? Plus, why would we kick the team that gave us our bench ( Randolph) in the gut after such a trade? I think that well ran dry once Randolph left LAX. lol
I don't think it would work to be honest. It was more of a respone to phaded 21's quote. Sure it would be nice but i doubt it could be done. Also, I don't think that the Randolph trade was a bad deal for memphis. Character issues aside Randolph was a great scorer and rebounder. He lead the team in scoring and was probably in the top two in rebounds. Up until he was arrested for a D.U.I. he was one of the bright spots in a dismal season (obviously other than Gordan and Jordans rookie campaigns) I understand the move was to give Blake playing time and clear up congestion in the front court, but to be honest he is a good player he just needs to stay out of trouble. So I think the deal benefitted us, but we in no way swindled them
If Randolph is a great player, why was he considered untradeable? The dude is not a team player and I'm glad he's on his way to Memphis. |
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Post subject: Re: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Sep 11, 2009 - 05:14 AM PST
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phaded21 wrote:
If this could happen, I think we should do it. Marc Gasol is a good player and I think he would be happy here. Plus, it would hype up the Lakers/Clippers rivalry.
He nearly averaged Kaman's numbers in his rookie season, and played all 82 games.
Do you guys think they should attempt this trade?
Definetelly a lot of Spanish players have already played in NBA and none has played for us...I'm just starting to feel it's a kind of a complot against me.
Marc is a good player but first I would like to see how Deandre develops since for me it's obvious he has much more upside than Marc. |
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Post subject: Re: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Sep 11, 2009 - 10:45 AM PST
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Miquel wrote:
phaded21 wrote:
If this could happen, I think we should do it. Marc Gasol is a good player and I think he would be happy here. Plus, it would hype up the Lakers/Clippers rivalry.
He nearly averaged Kaman's numbers in his rookie season, and played all 82 games.
Do you guys think they should attempt this trade?
Definetelly a lot of Spanish players have already played in NBA and none has played for us...I'm just starting to feel it's a kind of a complot against me.
Marc is a good player but first I would like to see how Deandre develops since for me it's obvious he has much more upside than Marc.
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Post subject: RE: Re: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Sep 11, 2009 - 11:04 AM PST
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One question OT
How many years is Dumbleavy under contract?
I know he are under contract this season (2009-2010) and the season 2010-2011. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Sep 11, 2009 - 01:00 PM PST
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Sonnie wrote:
One question OT
How many years is Dumbleavy under contract?
I know he are under contract this season (2009-2010) and the season 2010-2011.
He's still under contract for this season and next season (2010-2011). So if we don't fire him or he doesn't choose to step down, then we have him for 2 more seasons. Unless Dunleavy takes us to the "promise land", I think it's safe to say that these are the final 2 years of Dunleavy being our head coach. I wouldn't mind him staying as GM though. No way are the Clippers gonna give him an extension if he doesn't show progress leading this team not only into the playoffs, but deep.
So in conclusion, Dunleavy knows his job is on the line. He finally has all the talent needed to win. The players are expected to be in camp fully healthy and in shape. Now it's all about the wins. Let's get this season started!  |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Nov 01, 2009 - 02:38 PM PST
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On the RealGM message boards some guy is saying that on the radio in Detroit there was a rumor that Dumars was talking to the Clips about a deal that was centered around Baron and Kaman going to Detroit and RIP and Stuckey coming here. Those numbers don't match so no telling if there is any truth to this or what actual pieces would be involved.
I have no doubt that Dunleavy wouldn't mind trading Baron under the right circumstances. Not sure what Kaman's early season form would do to this deal as well. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Kaman for Gasol, the other Gasol
Posted: Nov 01, 2009 - 02:56 PM PST
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| Kaman is worth more than Detroit is offering, but I would gladly move Baron for Stuckey, though I doubt Detroit would take on the salary... Would love to get Rip... Perhaps Baron and Thornton for Stucky and Rip would work salary wise... |
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Post subject: hornets continue to dump salary
Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 06:54 PM PST
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A source with knowledge of the situation says the Kings are discussing a trade with New Orleans that would send Kenny Thomas to the Hornets and bring center Emeka Okafor to Sacramento. Sacramento Bee
No deal is imminent and this is merely a discussion between the two sides at this point.
since they are in so much hurry to dump salary, im thinking we can get CP3 from these guys at the right price. we give em camby(expiring), ricky d(expiring), minnys first round pick, our next years first round pick, and thornton. the two first round picks can give em their future franchise players. or instead of the picks, we can give them either EJ or BG. eitehr one of those trades work for me. |
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Post subject: RE: hornets continue to dump salary
Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 07:10 PM PST
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There's no way that the Hornets trade Paul to us unless Griffin and/or Gordon are involved. I can't believe they are thinking of dumping Okafor if this is true. This is a sure way to blow up the franchise and piss of the star of the team.
The question is how much would you be willing to give up to get Paul. He's a top 5 player in the league and someone to truly build around. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: hornets continue to dump salary
Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 07:13 PM PST
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Hooch20 wrote:
There's no way that the Hornets trade Paul to us unless Griffin and/or Gordon are involved. I can't believe they are thinking of dumping Okafor if this is true. This is a sure way to blow up the franchise and piss of the star of the team.
The question is how much would you be willing to give up to get Paul. He's a top 5 player in the league and someone to truly build around.
i know, thats why i said instead of picks, we give them BG or EJ. i would be willing to give them either one. CP3 is very young and can completely change the WHOLE FRANCHISE around. they will probably ask for Bg, and id be okay giving him up if it means getting CP3. |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 07:15 PM PST
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 07:19 PM PST
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| wow, paul was already pissed off because they were trying to cut costs instead of improve the team when they dumped rasual and chandler. now they're dumping okafor? and paul is injured on top of that? i guess we can count new orleans out of the playoff mix |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 07:34 PM PST
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| This is big news, but I doubt that their salary dump will include Chris Paul. CP3 is a guy that can turn a franchsie around, and my guess is that they are definitely getting rid of everyone to try and bring in new pieces for Paul. I doubt they are shopping him, and I am in no way up for trading Eric Gordon or Blake Griffin. Anyone else is fair game, but not those two |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 07:36 PM PST
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http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5282490
Camby, Telfair, Gordon, and Griffin for Paul and West.
I think this deal would work for both teams. We get the better talent, but the Hornets get two young studs on smaller rookie salaries that they could build around in the future. |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 07:39 PM PST
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| I love CP3, he's my favorite player, but I just can't bear to part with Gordon |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 07:40 PM PST
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lakerh8r wrote:
This is big news, but I doubt that their salary dump will include Chris Paul. CP3 is a guy that can turn a franchsie around, and my guess is that they are definitely getting rid of everyone to try and bring in new pieces for Paul. I doubt they are shopping him, and I am in no way up for trading Eric Gordon or Blake Griffin. Anyone else is fair game, but not those two
I don't think they salary dump Paul, but if they trade Okafor for Kenny Thomas's expiring they will have one very upset PG.
Any are you serious that you wouldn't trade Griffin or Gordon for Paul? Sure we have two nice young pieces, but I highly doubt that either of them will ever be on Chris Paul's level. |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 07:46 PM PST
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Hooch20 wrote:
lakerh8r wrote:
This is big news, but I doubt that their salary dump will include Chris Paul. CP3 is a guy that can turn a franchsie around, and my guess is that they are definitely getting rid of everyone to try and bring in new pieces for Paul. I doubt they are shopping him, and I am in no way up for trading Eric Gordon or Blake Griffin. Anyone else is fair game, but not those two
I don't think they salary dump Paul, but if they trade Okafor for Kenny Thomas's expiring they will have one very upset PG.
Any are you serious that you wouldn't trade Griffin or Gordon for Paul? Sure we have two nice young pieces, but I highly doubt that either of them will ever be on Chris Paul's level.
I see your point. CP3 is great...by far my favorite player, but It just seems like so much Hooch20. Gordon is awesome and Griffin can potentially be a franchise player the caliber of Chris Paul. I guess I still say no, albeit with a little bit of hesitation (it is Chris Paul...very inticing) |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 07:50 PM PST
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| If ownership is in a salary dump, it's for a reason... They're losing money... Perhaps they're getting rid of overhead to sell the team and move it... They already dumped Rasual, then Scott. If they do, in fact, dump Okafor who knows what they might do next. They're obviously not doing what they're doing for the good of their team in terms of basketball... |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 07:53 PM PST
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 07:55 PM PST
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SamMays wrote:
If ownership is in a salary dump, it's for a reason... They're losing money... Perhaps they're getting rid of overhead to sell the team and move it... They already dumped Rasual, then Scott. If they do, in fact, dump Okafor who knows what they might do next. They're obviously not doing what they're doing for the good of their team in terms of basketball...
Very true...either way this is one scenario we will have to keep eyes on |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 08:00 PM PST
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SamMays wrote:
If ownership is in a salary dump, it's for a reason... They're losing money... Perhaps they're getting rid of overhead to sell the team and move it... They already dumped Rasual, then Scott. If they do, in fact, dump Okafor who knows what they might do next. They're obviously not doing what they're doing for the good of their team in terms of basketball...
Chris Paul is an amazing piece for the Hornets. The thing is, if you're not winning you might as well start over. They've got awful contracts on their books and I really don't see a way for them to rebuild without moving Paul. You also don't want to trade your somewhat valuable pieces and put young kids around Paul. Sure Paul will help the young kids, but that's still not a winning situation. A deal for young pieces help them rebuild while also saving the team money while the kids are on rookie contracts. |
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Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 08:04 PM PST
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| Paul is a BYC player. This pretty much means he can't be traded this year. |
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Post subject: Re: hornets continue to dump salary
Posted: Nov 14, 2009 - 08:06 PM PST
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clipperstown wrote:
A source with knowledge of the situation says the Kings are discussing a trade with New Orleans that would send Kenny Thomas to the Hornets and bring center Emeka Okafor to Sacramento. Sacramento Bee
No deal is imminent and this is merely a discussion between the two sides at this point.
since they are in so much hurry to dump salary, im thinking we can get CP3 from these guys at the right price. we give em camby(expiring), ricky d(expiring), minnys first round pick, our next years first round pick, and thornton. the two first round picks can give em their future franchise players. or instead of the picks, we can give them either EJ or BG. eitehr one of those trades work for me.
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Post subject: RE: Re: hornets continue to dump salary
Posted: Nov 15, 2009 - 03:20 AM PST
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| let me just say, on the topic of trades in general...i hope we never trade deandre. ever. i don't even care if hes a bust, just keep him here. he's the funniest guy ever, i love reading his journals. if we win, great, but if we lose, like we usually do, nothing cheers me up like a deandre journal. its just nice to know hes a kid out there, and just having fun. he writes his blogs like hes a 9 year old fan. and i mean that in a good way. i love him. |
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 - 05:04 AM PST
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seanrooks wrote:
let me just say, on the topic of trades in general...i hope we never trade deandre. ever. i don't even care if hes a bust, just keep him here. he's the funniest guy ever, i love reading his journals. if we win, great, but if we lose, like we usually do, nothing cheers me up like a deandre journal. its just nice to know hes a kid out there, and just having fun. he writes his blogs like hes a 9 year old fan. and i mean that in a good way. i love him.
Deandre is a basketball player, not a journalist. He should take care of his game and seize the opportunities because I haven't seen any improvement on his numbers...He's starting to seem a perennial NBA bust
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 - 11:42 AM PST
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Miquel wrote:
seanrooks wrote:
let me just say, on the topic of trades in general...i hope we never trade deandre. ever. i don't even care if hes a bust, just keep him here. he's the funniest guy ever, i love reading his journals. if we win, great, but if we lose, like we usually do, nothing cheers me up like a deandre journal. its just nice to know hes a kid out there, and just having fun. he writes his blogs like hes a 9 year old fan. and i mean that in a good way. i love him.
Deandre is a basketball player, not a journalist. He should take care of his game and seize the opportunities because I haven't seen any improvement on his numbers...He's starting to seem a perennial NBA bust
Definetelly now I'd trade him for Marc Gasol. This team needs players who really know to play baskteball more than athletic freaks like Deandre
I agree Miguel. Maybe Jordan should spend more time in the training facility than thinking up his next comedy routine. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: hornets continue to dump salary
Posted: Nov 15, 2009 - 11:58 AM PST
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Back to trade ideas.
1) Fire Dunleavy... Until that's done, little else will matter.
2) Move Baron to about the only team that has a fondness for him, Golden State. Let's say Baron and Thornton for Maggette and Curry. If Curry can't be pried away, take CJ Watson instead.
Golden State is a mess. We're a mess. Maybe this could go through... Maggette is an upgrade over Thornton and Butler and I think the loss of Baron will be addition by subtraction. Then, Maggette might be tradeable sooner than Baron will be. They have a few other pieces up there who want out, Jackson and Ellis... Either one of them would work...
Of course this is predicated on the idea that they think highly of Baron. If not, they'd never go for it. |
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 - 12:17 PM PST
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| ^^^ I really like that idea. Combining that idea with the cp3 ideas can make this team deadly. So first we have to trade camby, Gordon, griffin, and butler for cp3 and west. Idk if the contracts work, but I think it will cause it doesn't put anybody over the cap so it would be okay to be a little off money wise. Then, we trade baron and Al for maggs and ellis/ azubuike. Ellis can play the 2 guard. So now, we have a pretty damn good championship callibor team with a starting lineup of Paul, ellis/azubuike, maggs, west, and kaman. That's a team with 2 allstars and 2 potential all stars. Our bench would still have rhino, gassy, novak, sticky, and deandre. |
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 - 12:38 PM PST
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If we could land CP3 and West in the deal I mentioned above I would look to move Baron for RIP. They have equally bad contracts and each guy could really help out the other team.
We could then start CP3, RIP, Thornton, West, and Kaman. This takes us out of 2010, but we'd have one of the best starting 5's in the league. |
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 - 12:41 PM PST
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I really think the team goes out and makes a move before they fire Dunleavy however. It's going to be a simple move I believe.
I'm thinking Al Thornton for Nick Young.
Both guys can score the ball, but don't do much else. They've each kind of warn out their welcome on their respective teams. Al is more of a SF/PF and Young is a SG/SF. Young would seem to fit better with what we already have on this team and he's also younger. |
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 - 12:57 PM PST
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Miquel wrote:
seanrooks wrote:
let me just say, on the topic of trades in general...i hope we never trade deandre. ever. i don't even care if hes a bust, just keep him here. he's the funniest guy ever, i love reading his journals. if we win, great, but if we lose, like we usually do, nothing cheers me up like a deandre journal. its just nice to know hes a kid out there, and just having fun. he writes his blogs like hes a 9 year old fan. and i mean that in a good way. i love him.
Deandre is a basketball player, not a journalist. He should take care of his game and seize the opportunities because I haven't seen any improvement on his numbers...He's starting to seem a perennial NBA bust
Definetelly now I'd trade him for Marc Gasol. This team needs players who really know to play baskteball more than athletic freaks like Deandre
The fact that we got him in the second round and he's showing us what he can do when he gets minutes are factors that are keeping him from not being a bust. He's shown us that he's gotten stronger, has better hands to catch those lobs, and he's gotten smarter on defense (remember when he used to jump at everything?), and his work on his free throws is starting to show (except for that last game). Not to mention he's still super athletic and just turned 21. There's a reason Chris Paul said that he wants DJ on his team and Kobe said he's gonna be some center down the road.
O yeah, and his journals are actually funny and interesting and they are only once every 3 weeks or something. If he should stop the journal, I guess all NBA players should stop twitter and facebook |
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 - 01:08 PM PST
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I'm thinking Al Thornton for Nick Young.
Both guys can score the ball, but don't do much else. They've each kind of warn out their welcome on their respective teams. Al is more of a SF/PF and Young is a SG/SF. Young would seem to fit better with what we already have on this team and he's also younger
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 - 01:08 PM PST
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all right i got an idea that i'm pretty sure will work.
1) fist, trade baron to the warriors for s-jax. the dude's a great player, is only 31, and is a great locker room guy. he should do well with dunleavy.
2) trade eric gordon, kareem rush, chris kaman and mike dunleavy for lebron. the contracts work out great, and the cavs are getting sick of lebron. also, they want a coach who can run the offense better than brown.
3)trade marcus camby, telfair, smith and ralph lawler for kobe and pau. the lakers can't stand john ireland's play by play, and rumor has it theyve had their eye on ralph for years. theyll finally meet our demands and give us kobe and pau.
4)here's the only part that's a little iffy, but i think it will work. trade al thornton, donald sterling, clipper darryl, and frankie muniz to the 1963 boston celtics for bill russell and red auerbach. most fans don't know this, but doc brown's a clipper fan, so he'd lend us the delorean on this one. only problem is that they might want billy crystal too.
so our lineup would be:
Russell
Griffin
LeBron
S-Jax
Kobe
and Pau on the bench, AND coach Auerbach, who's an improvement over dunleavy. i think this trade could work.
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seanrooks wrote:
all right i got an idea that i'm pretty sure will work.
1) fist, trade baron to the warriors for s-jax. the dude's a great player, is only 31, and is a great locker room guy. he should do well with dunleavy.
2) trade eric gordon, kareem rush, chris kaman and mike dunleavy for lebron. the contracts work out great, and the cavs are getting sick of lebron. also, they want a coach who can run the offense better than brown.
3)trade marcus camby, telfair, smith and ralph lawler for kobe and pau. the lakers can't stand john ireland's play by play, and rumor has it theyve had their eye on ralph for years. theyll finally meet our demands and give us kobe and pau.
4)here's the only part that's a little iffy, but i think it will work. trade al thornton, donald sterling, clipper darryl, and frankie muniz to the 1963 boston celtics for bill russell and red auerbach. most fans don't know this, but doc brown's a clipper fan, so he'd lend us the delorean on this one. only problem is that they might want billy crystal too.
so our lineup would be:
Russell
Griffin
LeBron
S-Jax
Kobe
and Blake on the bench, AND coach Auerbach, who's an improvement over dunleavy. i think this trade could work.
lets do this!!
not a bad idea, but i think we can get more value from ralph. |
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Posted: Nov 15, 2009 - 01:11 PM PST
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I trade Camby, Eric Gordon, and Minesota' first pick for Chris Paul. I think people are crazy on this board for refusing to give up Eric Gordon for Chris Paul.
This deal might be fair to New Orleans but I'm not sure. He is Chris Paul.
This trade would give them two promising players and salary cap flexibility.
I'd almost be willing to take a bad contract ot get him. |
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clippersblue wrote:
I trade Camby, Eric Gordon, and Minesota' first pick for Chris Paul. I think people are crazy on this board for refusing to give up Eric Gordon for Chris Paul.
This deal might be fair to New Orleans but I'm not sure. He is Chris Paul.
This trade would give them two promising players and salary cap flexibility.
I'd almost be willing to take a bad contract ot get him.
With this trade you have BD and CP3 in the same team. Right now I think it's more difficult to find a team interested in Baron Davis than convince the Hornets in order to trade Paul... |
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How about we just scrap this season and try to trade Baron and Kaman for Jermaine O'Neal and Mario Chalmers?
Miami gets better and can make a strong run in the playoffs. Sure they lose their cap space in 2010, but they get a sure thing right now. Pat Riley also wanted to draft Kaman over Wade back in the day.
For us we go for the complete rebuild and let the young guys grow this year. Next year we start with a core of Chalmers, Gordon, Griffin, and Jordan. Oh yeah, we also have enough money to sign two max free agents next year. There are rumors that Bosh and LeBron want to play together and they discussed this while with team USA. We could be looking at Chalmers, Gordon, LeBron, Griffin, and Bosh.
We'd also have a very high draft pick this year.
Worst case scenario we sign someone like Joe Johnson or Rudy Gay. |
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clippersblue wrote:
I trade Camby, Eric Gordon, and Minesota' first pick for Chris Paul. I think people are crazy on this board for refusing to give up Eric Gordon for Chris Paul.
This deal might be fair to New Orleans but I'm not sure. He is Chris Paul.
This trade would give them two promising players and salary cap flexibility.
I'd almost be willing to take a bad contract ot get him.
I'd do that too dude. Love Eric but trading him for possibly the best player in the league is no insult. Camby is gone anyway. Who knows what that Minnesota pick turns out to be.
It would actually be interesting to NO as well...A big expiring, a cheap young up and comer, and a lottery pick. that team is looking for a package like this.
We could dump BD on a contender in the east. He's playing well this season. Somebody takes him. |
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I like both the Miami and New Orleans trades on here. I would not do the trade with Miami until we know we can't salvage this season and that Miami is in a solid playoff position. I am not willing to pull a trade like that currently. I would rather see us salvaging this season when Gordon and Blake return.
With the New Orleans trade I think it is a no brainer if New Orleans would accept it. If we couldn't find a suitor for Baron this season he could play SG until we sign a free agent next year. I could imagine CP3 really pushing DJ to bring his A game every night. I also think if CP3 came he would probably want Byron Scott here and try to pressure the Donald for action. Camby, Gordon, and Minny's 1st seems like an equal deal for the leagues best PG. |
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| imagine what bringing cp3 here would do for deandre's game. wow |
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Ricky Davis and Mardy Collins for Raja Bell. The numbers work.
Raja Bell would be a great addition. He's a defensive-minded veteran wing who can hit big shots (as Clipper Nation knows all too well).
SG: Gordon/Bell
SF: Thornton/Butler
I can't imagine Bell getting that much burn on a Warriors team saturated with wings. But it also begs the question of why they'd consider trading one extraneous wing for two lesser-talented wings. Either way, just throwin it out there. |
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